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Time Warner Celebrates Channel Realignments, But Subscribers Want to Talk About Navigator “Upgrade”

Phillip Dampier May 19, 2010 Consumer News, Video 7 Comments

Time Warner Cable is convinced subscribers are confused about the enormous number of channels that occupy today’s cable dials.  With today’s rapid growth in HD channels, the cable company is introducing some dramatic channel realignments for its customers in the Carolinas.

Next month, customers in the Triangle will join Time Warner Cable’s Common Digital Lineup, a project to align channel assignments throughout the two states.  When complete, all digital channels will be located in the same place on the dial throughout the Carolinas.  The company is also switching to a theme-based channel lineup.  Each category will have its respective channels grouped together.  Among them: news, general entertainment, sports, children’s programming, music, and movies.

For those in the northeastern states, this doesn’t represent anything new for the cable company — Time Warner Cable systems in New York, for example, have grouped digital channels into categories for years.

But the Carolinas realignment does make it considerably easier to locate HD channels, which will be aligned with their standard definition counterparts.  For example, CNN will soon be found throughout the Carolinas on channel 400.  Finding CNN HD becomes effortless – just put a “1” in front of the channel number — 1400.  The Disney Channel is on channel 200.  Disney Channel HD is easy enough to find — it’s now on channel 1200.  Even local channels are easier to deal with.  In Greensboro, for example, WXII, the NBC affiliate, will be on channel 120 for standard definition viewing or channel 1120 for HD viewing.

Complete channel lineup guides for the Carolinas are available from Time Warner Cable’s website.

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Time Warner Cable’s House Organ, News 14 Carolina, delivers plenty of airtime to spokeswoman Melissa Buscher, who gushes about the channel alignment changes completed in Charlotte this past March.  (3 minutes)

The new lineup will take effect for North Carolina customers on the following dates:

Raleigh Area
Fayetteville, Dunn, Fort Bragg, Wilson, Southern Pines 6/2
Farmville, Garner, Selma, Goldsboro, Seymour Johnson, Cary, Raleigh, Wake Forest, Youngsville, East Wake County 6/8
Henderson, Bunn,  Carrboro, Durham, Chapel Hill 6/16
Greensboro Area
Lexington/Davidson County 6/14
Winston-Salem, Forsyth, Bermuda, Run, Tomalex, Yadkin, Yadkinville, Surry, Stokes, Dobson, Mocksville, Mt. Airy, Elkin, King 6/16
Mebane, Alamance, Burlington, Greensboro, High Point, Archdale, Asheboro, Randolph County, Candor, Biscoe, Star, Rockingham 6/22

The new channel lineup will be grouped as follows:

  • 100’s – Local Broadcasters & Local Programming
  • 200’s – Kids & Family, Learning & Discovery, Faith & Inspiration
  • 300’s – Entertainment, Home & Leisure, Shopping
  • 400’s – News & Information, Music
  • 500’s – Sports
  • 600’s – Movies
  • 700’s – Premiums, Pay-Per-View Events
  • 800’s – International
  • 900’s – Music Choice
  • 1000’s – On Demand
  • 1100 and above- High Definition

Meanwhile, a lot of other Time Warner customers would prefer to share their continued displeasure with Time Warner’s “new and improved” program guide and DVR configuration menus.  Mystro Navigator has mystified a large number of customers who can’t stand the software and don’t understand why Time Warner radically changed it in the first place.

One Raleigh customer complains the software upgrade turned his DVR’s fast forward and rewind buttons into mud.  The upgrade dropped the 4x fast forward option which rapidly scanned through recorded programming.  Fast forwarding through commercials has become a nightmare because the box automatically rewinds about 10-20 seconds behind the point where the customer stopped fast-forwarding.

Buffalo and Rochester, New York customers have also given the software a hostile reception.  Some customers in Buffalo have canceled Time Warner Cable over the upgrade and switched to Verizon FiOS. In Rochester, a few residents have noted it has become much more difficult to manage manual recordings or setting the DVR up to record series properly.  The most common complaints:

  • No apparent “jump to end” in playback
  • Fast forward and rewind are not accurate
  • Finding shows by title is laborious at best
  • Recording shows and series has become needlessly complex by the changed menu structure
  • No apparent 4x fast forward and reverse
  • Program descriptions are heavily truncated on DVR recordings
  • Erasing and managing recorded shows often drops you out of the DVR menu
  • DVR recording is not consistent
  • Configuring Navigator to work with HD sets is confusing for the uninitiated
  • Extremely sluggish channel changing, responsiveness

Dealing with Navigator and the Time Warner Cable remote control, especially in the dark, should be an Olympic event.  One Buffalo resident has thrown up his hands:

Time Warner reminds me of former Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich. Both have severe technology handicaps. I watched the governor get fired on The Apprentice because he couldn’t use a cell phone or send an email or use the simplest technology.

Time Warner can’t seem to design a clicker that works. Mine has 63 buttons and looks like part of a 767 cockpit console. Hello? All I want is channel, volume and on/off.

The Time Warner remote doesn’t have a single on/off button — it has two – a ‘system’ and a “power” button. The engineer who designed that monstrosity should be dragged through the streets by a mob of angry senior citizens who must fumble with that thing every day.

Some tips have been circulating informally among Time Warner Cable engineers about how to deal with Navigator’s temperamental behavior:

Navigator Guide Data:

  1. Newly installed or downloaded guides can take up to 24 hours for all seven days of guide data to populate. In many cases, new installs may only go out by three days until a full 24 hours have completed.
  2. When Setting Up Series Recording for your first week with Navigator: (and even thereafter if you can help it) DO NOT DELETE SHOWS IN THE MIDDLE OF RECORDING THEM! Let Navigator do at least one complete recording of a series. If you need to delete a series, do it through the Series Manager, but before the recording starts. If you delete a series in the middle of recording it, Navigator will think it made an error, and will keep looking out for more episodes to record of that series.
  3. Navigator needs to see AT LEAST ONE instance of a series for the populated guide data to be able to record it. Remember, under Record Series With Options you can set up on what channel(s) the series should record, the number of episodes to keep, and set series priorities.

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Time Warner Cable produced these two videos to assist Navigator customers trying to understand how to record programming or set up their televisions to properly display cable programming.  (3 minutes)

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Sunshine1970
Sunshine1970
14 years ago

Ugh. Navigator. Sucks! All those complaints are exactly husband and I have regarding the rewind/fast forward. I’ve finally gotten the knack of it and have figured out that if one stops FF somewhere after the show comes back on I can make it so it starts at the very beginning of the next segment almost every time but it’s not intuitive. When the switch happened some time last week, it deleted some of the shows we had recorded, and also the times for the series we recorded were all screwed up. Such as instead of catching the newest episode of… Read more »

katyB
katyB
14 years ago
Reply to  Sunshine1970

Time Warner digital clumsy chaos versus this simple grace-> Google TV
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diTpeYoqAhc&feature=player_embedded#!

I’m buying Google stock!

Dave Hancock
Dave Hancock
14 years ago

How bad Navigator is all depends who you listen too (and where you read about it). People on the AVS Forum (all around the country as well as here in Rochester) generally seem to like it! While the title search is a little awkward – at least there IS a title search (we didn’t have that with the previous software – SARA). While the 4th FF & RW is gone, there is not a jump forward (& backward) in 15 min increment function (just hold the FF or RW button down for a bit). It has a much more modern… Read more »

Dave Hancock
Dave Hancock
14 years ago

Phil, Difference in experiences with the SA8300HD. I was also one of the first with the 8300HD (on beta too) and I still have the same unit. I have a similar “do-it-yourself” external hard drive and was very early on that one too. I’m still on the original external drive too. I think that the secret to longevity is good air circulation – for both the box and the external drive.

Chuck
Chuck
14 years ago

Phil – noticed you’re using a 640 GB external hard drive. Has something changed? I thought the max it would recognize was around 500 GB.
Well my external drive just failed and I’m ready to buy a new one. Will most likely go with your option unless you have another suggestion.
I have the 8240 HDC box. Would you recommend changing cable boxes? Thanks for your information.

Dave Hancock
Dave Hancock
14 years ago
Reply to  Chuck

Chuck, In the early days of external drives with the 8300HD it was thought that there was a max size limit of around 500GB. What was happening then was that once a drive filled up to the 500GB mark the directory could not address above that point, and recordings would be effectively “lost”. Somewhere along the line that problem got fixed in subsequent versions of SARA and 1TB drives became workable. But we are now in the age of Navigator (“Crapagator” to some), and the software (ODN) for the CableCARD versions of DVRs (8300HDC, 8240HDC, etc.) do not support external… Read more »

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