Telling Time Warner customers to get rid of the cable company’s phone service.

Best Buy employees in upstate New York are advising Time Warner Cable customers to dump Time Warner phone service and buy their own cable modem to completely avoid any additional monthly fees.

“We don’t have modems that will support Time Warner’s voice services, so basically any customer that has that bundle either has to make the decision to get rid of that service or deal with paying for that service every month,” said Syracuse Best Buy employee Drew Cacciola.

Cacciola told a Syracuse television station Time Warner’s supplied equipment is “old and refurbished” and that if customers purchase their own equipment, they will have the latest technology and won’t have to worry about ending up with another refurbished cable modem if the current modem fails.

“If [a new modem] breaks down you can get a new one you don’t have to send it back to them and you won’t get another refurbished one – you get a new one,” said Cacciola.

In fact, Time Warner phone customers do not have to cancel their phone service to avoid the modem fee, but they will be stuck with two pieces of equipment — a Time Warner-supplied eMTA that manages the phone service (with its Internet ports disabled) and the customer’s own purchased cable modem. For now, Time Warner is not charging customers for eMTA equipment used exclusively for its phone service.

Best Buy does not carry some of the models on Time Warner’s approved modem list, and the cheapest one WSYR reporters could find cost around $60, meaning it will take just over a year to recoup the cost of the modem.

Motorola cable modem

Time Warner Cable’s modem fee continues to create consternation for customers, especially when they learn the same piece of equipment used for both Internet and phone service costs $3.95 a month when used for broadband, but is free when used only for phone service.

Stop the Cap! reader Ben argued with a Time Warner representative trying to understand the reasoning.

“So, let me get this straight about the modem fee: If I have phone there is no fee but if I use the same modem to also get Internet, there is a fee?,” Ben asked.

Yes, came the answer. The explanation:

“About the modem fee: Our costs for Internet equipment keep increasing and unfortunately we could not continue to absorb the costs related to their purchase, maintenance and repair,” wrote a Time Warner employee named ‘Paul-E.’ “Leasing a modem ensures you have the most up to date and capable equipment to take advantage of our services as we offer faster speeds and additional functionality. These events sometimes require that we replace your current equipment to give you the best experience.”

Time Warner’s explanation for the new modem fee sounds plausible, but unfortunately for “Paul-E” (and the company),  much of it is demonstrably false.

Investors Business Daily reports the new $3.95 computer modem leasing fee could raise up to $500 million a year for the cable company.

“I would look at this as a price increase,” Bryan Kraft, an analyst at Evercore Partners, told IBD via email. “There are some questions that need to be answered before the impact on ARPU (average monthly revenue per user) can be reasonably estimated.”

Stop the Cap! took a look at Time Warner Cable’s financial reports and discovered the company’s capital expenses for its high speed Internet service (and cable modem equipment) have dropped for the third year in a row:

Time Warner Cable’s capital expenditures on customer premise equipment, including cable modems, has dropped for three years in a row.

Capital spending (as a whole) so far this year has decreased as a percentage of revenue to just 12% for residential customers. Time Warner has spent money primarily on extending service to potential business customers.

The need to charge you more for a cable modem is questionable when residential Internet service rate increases and customers gravitating to more expensive, higher speed services already deliver the company higher average revenue per customer without spiking their costs.

When the station relayed complaints about long hold times and busy signals for customers trying to activate their purchased cable modem, the response from Time Warner — don’t call on Monday or Friday or around morning or dinner time unless you are prepared to wait on hold.

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WSYR in Syracuse covers the ongoing controversy with Time Warner Cable’s new modem fees, and a Best Buy employee tells Time Warner customers to get rid of the company’s phone service.  (3 minutes)

A very frustrated employee of Frontier Communications working in one of their Ohio offices sent Stop the Cap! a detailed report on some of Frontier’s problems with customer service, unfair fees, and other horror stories. In this second part, a look at Frontier’s fees, service commitments, and the caliber of customer service. (Stop the Cap’s comments appear in italics.)

Installation fees can be a significant component of a customer’s first bill — a rude surprise for anyone choosing a promotional offer and experiencing bill shock when that first bill arrives. That triggers complaint calls to customer service, where a Frontier representative will ultimately decide whether you will get the free installation you were promised.

How much will your first bill be? The broken promises of “free installation.”

If you order today, your installation will be free… or not.

Let me share a little secret. I believe most representatives will always quote free installation to get the sale. Most believe the payoff for the company in the long run is better than the temporary hit we take on installation expenses. It also makes our commission checks a little fatter the following month. Unfortunately, in the rush to make the sale, I believe the majority of reps fail to note what they promised on the customer’s new account, which means they get charged some expensive install fees. Many quickly call in,  accusing us of reneging on our offer.

We handle these as if we were playing some version of Russian Roulette, straight out of Deer Hunter. One out of every six customers will not get their installation fees waived simply because we refuse. Sometimes it becomes a game of using your gut and flipping a coin. Other times it is the amount of the refund.

It is much easier on us if the fees we reverse are under $100, because we have the authority to issue an immediate credit. If the fees are over $100, things get complicated because the request must be approved by a regional office manager who relies entirely on the notes left by the customer service representative. If the request is denied, it is our job to call you back with the bad news. But the good news is the odds are still in your favor if you persist asking for the fees to be reversed.

I hate to say it, but it all comes down to the mood of the rep you get on the line and how much he or she is willing to fill out those forms for you. It sucks, but there is no full-proof system to prevent this and it frustrates me to no end.

Stayed home all day waiting for a Frontier technician who never showed up? They marked your problem solved anyway. 

Waiting for the service technician that claims he rang your doorbell and nobody answered.

This is truly the one that bugs me the most. I deal with at least 15 calls a day (this number has increased since July) where either the technician does not call a customer to notify them they can’t make it, or simply does not show at all and writes off the service order as “completed.”

The latter irritates customers and our call center to no end. Customers are infuriated when we tell them the technician knocked on your door, nobody answered, so they left you a note. Of course, the customer insists nobody ever actually showed up and they don’t have any note. We tend to believe the customers when they tell us they do not have working service, if only because they are calling us on their cell phones.

Customer service representatives can be audited and disciplined by Frontier for not clearly including a phone number where the customer can be reached, all for the benefit of Frontier technicians. Despite this, we find our techs rarely contact the customer to keep them informed about the progress of their service call.

Our worst problems are currently in Michigan and Indiana where the majority of our missed commitments stem from. No call, no show — a technician can do this to a customer and still have his job the next day. I would get a pink-slip marked “customer mistreat” and shown the door if I pulled this trick. But many technicians just don’t care and do not have to take the angry calls from customers wondering where the hell the technician is. We see it in tech notes left on the account that say things like ‘didn’t make it to the job on time – leaving to go home.’  They never bothered to ask the customer to reschedule or call them to let them know they won’t be coming.

I understand that their job is just as stressful as ours, but they need to pull their weight as well and stop marking incomplete orders as “finished” or avoiding the customer on a missed commitment. It infuriates customers and makes the company look bad.

The Race to the Bottom: Lower wages = inferior customer service

Over the past few years, Frontier has been consolidating its call centers — moving to locations where average wages and benefits are notoriously low and politicians push a “pro-business” agenda that hands out favors in the form of tax credits and incentives to companies willing to relocate.  For Frontier, this spells doom for employees that were paid enough to earn a living in places like Coeur d’Alene, Idaho ($15-21/hr) in favor of cheap labor staffing new call centers in states like South Carolina ($11-12/hr with a five year wage freeze). That is bitter news for former Frontier employees in Idaho who saved the company an estimated $84 million successfully converting an inherited Verizon computer system to the one Frontier uses in other states. Employees were thanked with termination notices and a cheap, plastic travel mug with the company’s logo. Paying a good wage or cutting paychecks to the least amount possible may make all the difference between a good customer service experience or an embarrassment for the company.

I am going to name a call center that every other Frontier call center loathes: DeLand, Florida.

This is one of our main sources of broken promises, bad orders and misinformation. In DeLand, you are considered a lifer if you’ve worked there for more than two years. They pay near-minimum wage to fresh-out-of-high-school students to sit on the phones, most of them quitting before their six month probationary period ends. Working for Frontier customer service is a summer job to the kids down there. They could care less if they write an order for someone in an area we don’t even service, provide customers inaccurate pricing, or just cold-transfer the customer back into the call queue if they are too ignorant to help the customer out.

Thankfully, not everyone in DeLand is doing a bad job. Some of our DeLand supervisors and representatives are earnest about delivering good customer service. But too often that is the exception, not the rule. DeLand is notorious for “cherrypicking” customers. That is a term Frontier call center workers know all too well. It means picking incoming calls that are most likely to generate commission-rich sales for the employee while throwing other callers back on hold for someone else to deal with.

The drive to make the sale is so intense, representatives sometimes start writing the order before they even verify the customer is actually in a Frontier service area. We use a simple verification system called CERT to check whether a potential customer is served by us or another phone company. But the orders for customers actually served by AT&T, Windstream, Verizon or CenturyLink still show up, and the customer has to be told later. We have heard about 60 percent of the orders placed in DeLand do not actually go through, either because of this problem or customers calling back changing their mind after they discover they were mislead about something.

Management does not seem to mind the aggressive sales tactics, because it brings the opportunity for new revenue, but customers left waiting or given bad information might.

Tomorrow: Frontier’s broadband service speeds, fees and some new facts about Frontier FiOS you shouldn’t miss.

A very frustrated employee of Frontier Communications working in one of their Ohio offices sent Stop the Cap! a detailed report on some of Frontier’s problems with customer service, unfair fees, and other horror stories. Over the next several days, we will present excerpts of this very long and detailed open letter, starting with what it is like to work in a Frontier customer service center dealing with customers unhappy with Frontier’s way of doing business. (Stop the Cap’s comments appear in italics.)

I work for a company that I am, quite frankly, frustrated with. The company is Frontier Communications.

I am currently an employee in the Marion, Ohio office/call center, and I am a customer service representative. I handle everything in terms of selling services, troubleshooting issues with telephone service, writing orders, setting up payment arrangements, etc. We occasionally refer to ourselves as universal service representatives. The latter title would admittedly sound better on a resume if my company were to ever find out that I had wrote this and fired me. So, after spending a long while working for this company I have learned a lot. I have taken every type of call that there is to take out there, ranging from a simple billing issue to someone getting absolutely screwed because of a mistake one our other representatives made.

I understand that when you have a customer base of three million residential accounts that you will take some angry calls, statistically speaking. It happens. I imagine that happens with every company out there, whether it sells phone service or a t-shirts. You will eventually run into a dissatisfied customer. I feel with Frontier, it happens way too often.

First off, before I go any further, I would like to say my supervisor and director are very knowledgeable individuals, and in no way am I implicating them in this open letter. They do their best to curb ignorance and poor customer service. I feel that the company limits their abilities to do even more to make customer service at Frontier a much more honest experience. Even the director of our call center still has to take orders from someone.

Frontier’s Shock and Awe:  The $200 Early Termination Fee for a Two-Year Contract Customers Never Realized They Had

Frontier’s early termination fees and contracts often come as a surprise to customers who had no idea they signed up.

I have noticed a lot of people calling in (and leaving comments on numerous review sites, as well as our Facebook page) voicing their displeasure about suddenly finding out that they were in a two-year contract, unable to cancel their services without incurring a 200 dollar early termination fee (ETF). This is something that I hate to deal with, as there are almost always no notes on any of these accounts left by previous representatives indicating they informed the customer of an ETF. Unless it is a special circumstance, we are supposed to tell you that you are notified on every billing statement that you are in a contract, and there is nothing that we can do to waive your fees. Most of the time, if a customer is persistent, they can actually escape and have these fees credited.

Firstly, the systems we use to write orders (Salesforce and DPI — yes, we have two different and completely redundant systems that serve the same function — one just looks prettier) both automatically default to the option of a 1 year contract with the option of automatically renewing that contact indefinitely. Frontier does offer a no-contract plan, but then you will fail to receive any sort of promotional pricing. So, a rep will write an order, complete it, and most of the time fail to review with the customer they are agreeing to a one year contract. We get a LOT of these types of calls, the majority originating from orders written by our service center in DeLand, Fla. What frustrates me is the lack of protocol that makes sure a rep notifies the customer that they are indeed being put on a contract. The calls are recorded and could be reviewed, but there are still too many of these people who fly under the radar and get stuck with a fee when it is too late to opt out.

It sucks to no end to have to tell somebody that they will have to spend an extra $200 to cancel their phone and Internet service, and many are left bewildered over the fee. It is always  hard to tell who has really been screwed and who is trying to dodge an ETF. So we handle it with our gut. That’s the best we can do.

Once a Frontier Customer, Always a Frontier Customer… Unless You Pay and Pray

Frontier works hard at holding onto the customers they have, either with long term contracts with heavy early termination penalties or other tricks and traps that can make departing Frontier a difficult and costly ordeal. In addition to term contracts, Frontier heavily markets extra services they claim will protect your account from mischief, but in reality makes it much more difficult to switch phone companies or terminate landline service.

Locking your phone number from third party transfers also buys you a headache if you want to switch providers.

When a Frontier rep asks you to put a free service on your account that will make sure nobody else can steal it without your permission, most people agree to it. This is called a Primary Local Exchange Carrier Freeze. Representatives have an incentive to push this free service, winning a $3 bonus to our commission if you let us add it to your account.

This service makes sure any third party companies cannot port your service over to theirs without your permission. Even with your permission, they still can’t do it until a Frontier rep removes the freeze. That requires customers to call in and speak with us. This gives us a very valuable opportunity to rescue your business and get you to change your mind. Customer retention is vital, which is why Frontier pays us extra to push a service that costs you nothing.

If a customer insists on “porting out” — keeping their current phone number but moving service to a new provider — we will remove the freeze on your account, but you will pay us for doing it.

It does not cost Frontier anything to remove the freeze, but we now charge customers a $1 fee to change your provider. Want local service with one company and long distance service with another? We charge $1 for each.

When customers accept our offer to place a freeze on unauthorized third parties messing with your phone service without your permission, we are required to obtain third party verification of your desire to have this service. Frontier uses an independent verification company that is god-awful and treats customers rudely, even yelling at some who do not follow the precise verification procedure. If they don’t like your answers, the order will not go through.

Their treatment of our customers reflects poorly on Frontier, especially when a customer’s order to obtain service never gets beyond the verification process.

I’ve heard these reps rip into customers for not answering with a “yes” or “no.” In one case, a gentleman from South Carolina had simply wanted to make sure that telemarketing calls would not screw with his phone bill/service, so I offered a freeze to ease his mind. I was absolutely appalled when he was asked by the third party verifier if he authorized the changes and he replied with the usual southern-accented “ya” and the woman on the other end literally yelled at him for not answering “yes.” The customer was completely taken aback and abruptly hung up. I would have too.

As a result, I often do not bother to include line freezes on larger orders, fearing the unprofessional attitude customers might endure could sabotage my commission and the customer’s scheduled service date. I wish Frontier would utilize a different company to process and verify orders.

So You Are Leaving? Do Exactly What We Say or Lose Your Phone Number

Listen very carefully

Oh boy, do I LOVE number porting. Of course that is absolute sarcasm. So, a port-in/out on paper sounds like a rock solid type of deal. The customer can retain his or her phone number, and check out the grass on the other side, greener or browner.

The process for handling a port-in is also fairly simple, and you would think that this would not be an issue for the customer to worry about. Of course, I wouldn’t be venting about it if this were always the case.

One big mistake routinely made by Frontier and other companies is cancelling your existing telephone service before the number port is complete. Some customers want to hurry the divorce and take it upon themselves to terminate service with their old provider as soon as the new service is turned on.

Under no circumstances should you do this, as it will absolutely screw you out of keeping your phone number. This is basic knowledge instilled in every Frontier rep during training, yet screw-ups still happen when one of our reps cuts off service before the other company has taken ownership of your phone number. That means your number is gone. Sometimes the porting process takes as long as 60 days to go through, so please be patient.

Unfortunately, with no system in place to prevent ignorant reps from screwing things up, numbers get lost. Sometimes it is our fault, sometimes it is with the customer, other times the new company created the problem. But we are often the ones left to explain to a customer the phone number they have had for 40 years is gone for good.

But it can get worse once someone else randomly grabs your old number. Imagine what happens when a grandmother’s lost number is reassigned to a porn smut peddler. Now some porn shop down the way has grandma’s number. This actually happened to a customer of a major cable provider. Imagine her friends and family trying to get her only to reach these people instead. It’s not a fun mess to clean up.

Coming Up: Wheel of Installation & Modem Fees, Adventures With Missed Appointments & Lost Trouble Tickets, and Big Trouble in Little DeLand

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Time Warner Cable continues tapdancing around whether its new $3.95 monthly modem rental fee is a hidden rate increase. WGRZ in Buffalo presses a spokeswoman on whether this is just another cable company money grab.   (2 minutes)

All Time Warner Cable broadband customers in upstate New York, New England, Pennsylvania, and the Carolinas will begin paying $3.95 a month to rent the cable modem required to make your $54.99/month Time Warner Cable Internet service work.

The cable company confirmed the charge will apply to all customers in Buffalo, Rochester, Syracuse, Albany, Binghamton, and beyond effective Nov. 1, joining New York City already paying the modem rental fee as of this week. The fee is gradually being introduced in all Time Warner Cable service areas nationwide.

Signature Home customers and those participating in the company’s trial of discounted Internet for the disadvantaged are exempted.

The new fee represents a 7% rate increase for Internet service, unless customers pay for their own modem.

Time Warner Cable mailed notification postcards to all affected areas this week, so they should begin arriving in mailboxes as soon as today. Southern states including Texas may see the new modem fee in their area as early as December.

“It is strictly a fee for customers who choose to lease their Internet modem from us,” Joli Plucknette-Farmen, the communications manager for Time Warner Cable’s western New York division told the Buffalo News. “As we continue to deploy more and more cable modems, many of these modems need servicing or replacing, get damaged and some are not returned. The monthly lease charge will allow us to service or replace the equipment, provide a better user experience and further enhance our Internet services.”

Stop the Cap! notes Time Warner Cable already assesses a fee ranging from $24-150 for unreturned or damaged cable modem equipment, however.

Phone subscribers who do not have Internet service will escape the fee as long as they avoid signing up for broadband.

Many of the models on the company’s approved modem list are now out of stock at the handful of retailers selling them. Other sellers, particularly on eBay and Amazon Marketplace, have doubled prices to as much as $200 on some popular DOCSIS 3 modems to capitalize on the cable operator’s new fees.