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At least 750 Verizon Wireless customer service representatives in Michigan will either have to relocate to another state or begin looking for a new job this June, as the wireless phone company announces it is shutting down its call center in Southfield. WJBK in Detroit reports. (2 minutes)
Readers: Please find our 2015 Guide to Getting a Better Deal from Time Warner Cable here. You will find the latest negotiating strategies and deal information in that updated article.
Time Warner Cable just won’t let you say goodbye, if they can help it.
A year ago, your editor fought for a better deal from the cable company that has served him since the 1980s. With a tough economy and downsizing, paying a cable bill that was approaching $175 a month in early 2011 for ‘all their best’ was simply no longer an option. Time Warner Cable’s customer retentions office responded with a promotion that slashed the bill to just $88.44 for Turbo Internet, cable-TV, and unlimited “digital phone” service with nationwide calling. Incidental charges included leasing a whole house DVR ($7.04), a second cable box ($6.84), $1 for “digital programming” and $0.34 for the remote control.
When the cable operator introduced DOCSIS 3 broadband speed upgrades, an additional $20 a month brought 30/5Mbps speeds. The total — $123.66 (before taxes and fees). That’s a whole lot less for a great deal more service.
When the promotion ended in February, the rate shot back up to $160, but $7.95 of that was for a year of Showtime at a special promotional price. Showtime was destined for the cancel corner anyway (we didn’t watch more than two hours of anything on Showtime in the last year), but even without it, the rate increase was on the steep side.
So we complained.
Unlike last year, which resulted in considerable confusion and arguing back and forth with different representatives to find the best deal, this year we let Time Warner’s social media representatives do the hard work for us. Within 24 hours, our rate for all of the same services, plus a special promotion that includes HBO, Cinemax, Showtime, and The Movie Channel at no additional charge, brought the bill down even lower than we managed last year: $102.33 a month for a year. That includes the 30/5Mbps Road Runner Extreme, Whole House DVR, and one extra cable box. It doesn’t include taxes and fees, which typically add another $6.50 to the bill.
The whole process was painless, and you can follow in our footsteps if you have a Twitter account:
Step One: Tweet Time Warner (Note the Twitter address has changed from @twcablehelp to @TWC_help):
The key phrase in whatever Tweet you send is to include: @TWC_help, which brings you to their social media customer service representatives. I also “followed” @TWC_help so I could see how active they were. During business hours, you should expect to see a reply like this within the hour:
For those new to Twitter, “DM” refers to a “direct message” — a private Tweet seen only by the intended recipient. I finally found the menu option that allows me to send a “direct message” on Twitter’s page for Time Warner Cable:
Note the red box around the option on the top right. By clicking that you will see a drop down menu that includes an option to “Direct Message” TWC_help. You will want to include your Time Warner Cable account number (as seen on your bill) and include your contact phone number.
Within 24-48 hours, a senior retentions specialist should call you to negotiate a better offer for your service. Make sure you answer those unfamiliar caller ID calls! But before they call, visit Time Warner Cable’s website and note any currently running new customer promotions. Also check to see if the competition is offering anything even lower. Those prices are typically the starting point for your negotiations, and the company should have little trouble meeting them. However, customers with a poor payment record or past due account may discover the company less willing to negotiate. Bring account balances current before negotiating for a lower rate.
Some Time Warner Cable territories offer “price protection agreements” or term contracts that lock customers into 1-2 years of service. Negotiating around these contracts can be difficult to impossible.
An alternative contact method is to direct e-mail Time Warner at: [email protected] (don’t forget the “.” in twcable.help).
The total time spent this year on finding a better deal that will save us $58 a month — $696 a year — about five minutes, far less than the time it took to write this article. Give it a try and let us know in the comments what kind of deals you can negotiate.
Billing problems, promotions-not-honored, and passing the buck are all common complaints from cable and phone customers, especially when employees of large providers don’t communicate with each other and saddle customers with the role of “go-between.”
Two recent examples of Customer Service From Hell reached our desk this week, one involving Verizon which has the “not my job” mentality firmly entrenched in their call centers, and the other from Time Warner Cable, where “Diego” told a new customer he couldn’t install their service until they disguised themselves as an old customer to cancel someone else’s service first.
The Case of the Persnickety Promotion – You Don’t Qualify Because We Never Added It to Your Account
You can't touch this Verizon offer when the company forgets to apply it to your account for eight months.
Anthony Caruso received an offer he couldn’t refuse from Verizon FiOS: $69.99 a month for a triple play package of phone, Internet, and television service good for 12 months, with a reduced discount of $89.99 per month for the second year — still a great deal over what Comcast was selling.
He signed up for service in June and was happy with the installation and the service… until the bill came.
Over the last eight months, Caruso has never received a single bill that reflected the offer he signed up for, resulting in monthly calls to customer service lasting between 30 and 75 minutes each. Every month, Verizon told Caruso the promotion he received never existed, but they would issue certain credits as a gesture of goodwill.
The Star Ledger exhaustively details the entire debacle, but suffice to say, Caruso was a victim because nobody at Verizon applied the promotion to his account. The company also never bothered to investigate why a customer had to keep calling (eight times in the last eight months) to receive those credits. The newspaper illustrates how complicated it all got:
In early July, Caruso received the first bill, for $176.44.
It was more than a little confusing: $470.32 in “Current Activity” charges minus $289.96 in “Specials & Promotions” minus $21.24 for a partial month. The bill also included a “Showtime Starz Entertainment Pack” for $16.99 and “Multi-Room DVR Package” for $24.99, neither of which Caruso ordered.
The bill also included a “first bill estimate” showing monthly charges would be $139.31.
“Very confusing collection of charges and credits,” he said. “I paid the full amount to avoid billing issues for my first payment.”
He called Verizon on July 29 to discuss the bill. Caruso was transferred three times, and a rep named Sandy helped. Caruso said she dropped the “Showtime Starz” package and applied a one-time $30 credit. Caruso decided to keep the “Multi-Room DVR Package,” so his future billing should be $104.43. Because of the overpayment on the first bill, the amount due on the August bill would be $43.21.
“I was also told I was getting $9.99 “Epix” movie channel free for three months,” he said. “The FIOS lineup shows Epix is included in my package, but I decided not to fight this.”
Caurso said he paid the August bill, but there were still problems. It showed the normal monthly price to be $133.63.
He called again, and this time spoke to a rep named Jason, who said he had never heard of a $69.99 bundle offer. Caruso faxed a copy of the offer letter to the rep, who then recomputed the bill to reflect the correct package amount.
But the September bill was for $127.26.
Caruso called Sept. 7 and spoke to two different reps. The second rep also denied the existence of a $69.99 bundle offer, but asked Caruso to again fax a copy of the offer.
The rep applied another one-time credit and said the correct amount would now be $92.16.
This continued for the next several months. The bill would be wrong, Caruso would call and the reps would apply credits.
Got it?
After months of endless frustration, Caruso had to appeal to the newspaper’s Bamboozled column for Star Ledger readers seeking a solution to their endless customer service nightmares.
Tom Maguire, a senior vice president for Verizon, figured out what at least 10 Verizon customer service representatives couldn’t — the company never applied the original promotion to Caruso’s account because the service order was not written in a way that would allow the promotion to be applied. Instead of the two year promotion, Caruso was signed up for month-to-month service, at a price of $129.99 a month, not $69.99.
“They basically dropped the ball from my perspective,” Maguire admitted.
What irritated Maguire (and Caruso even more) is that repeatedly-faxed copies of the promotional offer made no difference.
Caruso’s consolation prizes for his eight month ordeal:
Tips for Living With Verizon:
Keep a copy of the promotional offer you select until it expires. If Verizon does not apply it correctly, or it mysteriously drops off your account at some point, you will have evidence the offer existed. If you experience a repeated billing problem, ask the representative that answers to transfer you to a senior customer service supervisor.
Time Warner Cable’s Mind Games Threaten Our Relationship
Courtesy: Jacobson
Julie Jacobson chose Time Warner Cable over AT&T for her new Carlsbad, Calif. condo located to the north of San Diego. The deciding factor: no cable box required for extra sets hooked up to expanded basic cable. (Unfortunately for Jacobson, that won’t be true much longer as Time Warner embarks on a nationwide conversion to a virtually all-digital lineup, which will require extra equipment on most television sets.)
Unfortunately, ever since Jacobson signed up for service, Time Warner has been playing “hard to get.”
Jacobson painfully details her encounters with Time Warner customer service, who had no idea what a CableCARD was (much less an “M-Card” which allows multiple signal streams). She was also not impressed to discover the “free” HD-DVR promotion on offer evidently only applied to the cardboard box it came in.
“Your ‘free’ HD-DVR comes with an additional $11/month box-rental fee and $11/month service fee,” Jacobson discovered. “The HD-DVR is free + $22/month, which puts TWC pricing into U-verse territory.”
But even that wasn’t enough for Jacobson to declare Time Warner Cable “sucky.” It was this:
Julie,
Thank you for placing your Time Warner Cable order online. We were unable to complete your order with the information you provided.
Please call us at 855-889-4113 so we can proceed with your service order. Be sure to have your order confirmation number (########) and the four-digit PIN you created during your online order ready when you call. We look forward to hearing from you so we can complete your order as soon as possible.
Thank you for choosing Time Warner Cable.
So I called the number on a Sunday at 3:15 p.m., using the phone number in the email. The office was closed by then. Believe it or not, I started pining for Comcast back in Minnesota. At least their customer service is 24/7.
After being bounced from offices in Wisconsin and North Carolina, she was finally transferred to California, where Diego (with his barely decipherable English) was waiting to not provide customer service:
I’m sorry, but I had a really tough time understanding him. As it turns out, it didn’t really matter because he was flat-out wrong. He told me the old tenants returned their TWC equipment, but they didn’t call to cancel their service; my order wouldn’t go through because there was already an account associated with the address.
“You need to call them to cancel their service,” he said.
“What?! I don’t even know who they are!”
In that case, he said, I could go to the local TWC office and bring them a copy of my lease.
That’s real convenient, given we’re only in town for one day.
So I ask Diego for the store phone number, and he provides it.
“Where is it located?” I ask.
“I don’t know … somewhere in the LA/San Diego area.”
Thanks, that narrows it down.
A more encouraging experience with another representative later on seemed to have everything worked out, until a new message from the company reached her e-mail box earlier today:
3rd Attempt: Please call us to avoid cancellation of your Time Warner Cable order.
Tips for Living With Time Warner Cable:
Time Warner’s system for dealing with new customers always hangs up when it finds existing service already established at an address. We encountered this ourselves and had to arrange for the old owners of our home to arrange for a service disconnection before Time Warner could complete our order for new service. Usually it makes better sense to call and establish service directly with a Time Warner representative over the phone when a complication like this arises. The representative would have identified the problem immediately instead of dispatching cryptic e-mail messages about a generic “problem with your order.” Calling the local office nearest you is also a great way to cut through red tape and stop your call from being transferred to different call centers.
If your order went horribly wrong and you were inconvenienced, ask a representative to throw in free installation or some other extra promotion for your time and trouble.
We also suspect that “third attempt” notification was probably associated with the earlier e-mail and not the more encouraging, later experience with another representative by phone.
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Comcast has concluded the last of four public meetings to address consumer complaints with the quality of the cable company’s products and customer service in Savannah, Ga.
Dozens of customers filled Armstrong Center to complain about billing, hold times, and service issues. Comcast technicians were on hand and literally followed some customers home to address long-standing problems on the spot.
The public meetings came at the urging of Savannah city officials who have received hundreds of complaints about Comcast’s poor performance in the Georgia city.
“We are committed to continuously improving the services that we offer and the way we deliver the service, said Andrew Macke, vice president of government and community affairs. “There’s ongoing efforts to improve that, but certainly as we value our relationship with the city, we’ll continue to work with them to highlight some of the things that we’re doing but also address some of the common themes.” (2 minutes)
Time Warner Cable dropped the ball… right on the heads of temporary customers Alice and Dan Beissel, who signed up for service and canceled just ten days later.
The Corpus Christi, Texas couple decided to cancel service from AT&T and give the cable company a try and, according to them, it was trouble right from the start.
The Beissels say the cable service never worked right, with picture outages and other equipment troubles that came and went. Frustrations mounted when a service call found nothing wrong, until the Time Warner truck pulled out of the driveway and the picture again went blank.
But the final straw was a conversation Dan Beissel had with the company’s customer service support center.
“What did you do that was wrong,” the representative asked Beissel.
Beissel must have thought the answer was ‘signing up for cable service,’ because the family decided to cancel after that call ended.
Now the couple has been forced to turn to KZTV’s Troubleshooter consumer reporter in an effort to collect an overdue refund check for their service. The station ran into the same kind of frustration the Beissel family did:
We’ve made several calls to Time Warner Cable in an attempt to speak with anyone who can help the couple.
Unfortunately, there is no customer service contact in Corpus Christi.
Time Warner Cable says refund checks are normally processed within four weeks and mailed from a California office. A local employee working for the cable company in the Corpus Christi area said he would look into the missing refund check.
KZTV in Corpus Christi is helping one family find a missing refund check owed to them by Time Warner Cable. (2 minutes)
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