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Road Runner on Valium

Phillip Dampier November 9, 2009 Editorial & Site News 30 Comments

Our Road Runner connection has been seriously degraded since Saturday night, and despite several hours of troubleshooting with several levels of technical support, and even a modem swap, our download speeds max out (when lucky) at around 1Mbps (instead of the normal 15+Mbps), while upload speed remains completely normal, which stumps even the Level 3 technicians locally.  Since nobody can figure this out, a service call is scheduled for tomorrow.  Our connection is too degraded to commit to normal publishing, so I’ll be firing up our Cricket broadband later today and publishing through that, so articles will be available later today.

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BrionS
Editor
14 years ago

I don’t have any solid evidence to back this up, but it seems as though my connection has been in the dumps for several days. Pages that normally load very fast (like You Tube) are terribly slow as frequently are my downloads of late. Is the network simply congested? Am I being punished for being a member of Stop the Cap!? Am I just paranoid (I don’t know)? In any case, it’s very annoying and I’m sure even more so for you because you not only have a server but pay for the extra speed (which I don’t anymore –… Read more »

BrionS
Editor
14 years ago

Yeah, I was going to do the inside/outside test as the internal network is always lightning fast but external tests to Toronto, San Diego or Japan are usually significantly different (though Toronto is usually still pretty fast ~10Mbps down).

I didn’t notice an IP address change lately since I have a domain name that points to my home box primarily for ssh access and that hasn’t been impacted in months. I don’t use dyndns, I just update it manually at my registrar’s page because it changes so infrequently and I want to know when it changes.

Uncle Ken
Uncle Ken
14 years ago

I did not test all of them but speakeasy speeds are normal for me.

Uncle Ken
Uncle Ken
14 years ago

Just checked all of TWC’s speed locations. All normal 6.0 to 6.75
~375 U

Uncle  Ken
Uncle Ken
14 years ago

My IP is not 74.74

Uncle  Ken
Uncle Ken
14 years ago

Brion you know better then that…congested. Ether a cute little fuzzy
critter that eats nuts and wires got in or you two got the TWC warning
shot. 🙂

Smith6612
Smith6612
14 years ago

This is what my neighborhood was seeing, added in with 500+ms latency back when Time Warner was performing node splits, and also still today when many people are online. DOCSIS 3.0 coming soon? Who knows… For the most part, might as well post up a trace route to find out what the problem might be exactly. In my area, it’s typically the first hop ping (CMTS) which is where things hit the fan first. None the less, if it is a Rochester-network wide issue, Buffalo’s traffic all has to go through Rochester, NY for whatever reason so I can see… Read more »

BrionS
Editor
14 years ago

After running all the tests TW has to offer I found Rochester to have speed problems (struggled to get to 15Mbps and sometimes hung around 10 or 11Mbps. But almost all the other locations (Syracuse, Albany, Binghamton, and Buffalo) shot straight to 19.95Mbps and stayed there.

New England continuously was in error and failed to run the test at all.

Are you friends with your neighbors? Have you asked them if their Internet is slow as well?

Smith6612
Smith6612
14 years ago

I honestly wouldn’t know what’s going on with that. The trace route looks pretty similar to what my neighbor got when I asked him to trace a website for me, and I know with a cable modem the latency isn’t as consistent in a trace route as DSL/Fiber tends to be. Today was a good night for Roadrunner in my neighborhood as he also pulled 28Mbps download, 2Mbps upload on his connection with a latency of 20ms. I wouldn’t know what’s going on other than saying there might be an issue going on with an edge router. None the less,… Read more »

FloodSpectre
FloodSpectre
14 years ago

I’m getting odd results myself, but very different from yours. I have one torrent running currently whose download speed is fluctuating between 70kbps and 600kbps with upload speeds between 20kbps to 1.6mbps! Very odd. I also seem to be unable to open any ports, which is strange.

Brion
Editor
14 years ago

Just…wow tonight:

brion@lightyear:~$ ping google.com
PING google.com (74.125.67.100) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from gw-in-f100.1e100.net (74.125.67.100): icmp_seq=1 ttl=50 time=48.6 ms
64 bytes from gw-in-f100.1e100.net (74.125.67.100): icmp_seq=2 ttl=50 time=52.8 ms
64 bytes from gw-in-f100.1e100.net (74.125.67.100): icmp_seq=3 ttl=50 time=50.9 ms
^C64 bytes from gw-in-f100.1e100.net (74.125.67.100): icmp_seq=4 ttl=50 time=51.2 ms

— google.com ping statistics —
4 packets transmitted, 4 received, 0% packet loss, time 15202ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 48.679/50.932/52.876/1.513 ms

BrionS
Editor
14 years ago
Reply to  Brion

Update: While Roadrunner did appear to have some problems on the 9th, I’ve come to determine that my slow ping response (15 sec. for 4 x 50ms pings) was due to my Ubuntu Karmic Koala IPv6 configuration and old router firmware. In a nutshell Ubuntu 9.10 (Karmic Koala) made some changes that uses IPv6 by default which is fine until you’re sitting behind some DNS resolver that doesn’t handle IPv6 (as my primary router’s DNS resolver doesn’t) which introduces around a 5 second delay for every DNS lookup. Suffice it to say it made the web like dial-up and that… Read more »

waiting and watching
waiting and watching
14 years ago

Speakeasy to Seattle:

Download Speed: 787 kbps (98.4 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 306 kbps (38.3 KB/sec transfer rate)

to Atlanta:

Download Speed: 8491 kbps (1061.4 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 367 kbps (45.9 KB/sec transfer rate)

to New York:

Download Speed: 9383 kbps (1172.9 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 370 kbps (46.3 KB/sec transfer rate)

I seem to be getting the best connection to New York, and both it and Atlanta are WAY over the 5 Mbps I should get. ???

I don’t even have a local speedtest for TWC to check.

Brion
Editor
14 years ago

I’m on a 72.230.241.0 network.

Brion
Editor
14 years ago

Also interesting is myself and two friends within a 3 block radius are all on separate class A networks: 72, 74, and 69.

BrionS
Editor
14 years ago
Reply to  Brion

A little more info… My network is comprised of two subnets – one wired and one wireless. The Internet enters the wireless router and goes to the wired router. I tested two machines (one wired and one wireless) using speedtest.net and TW’s speed test as well as pingtest.net. I also tested three operating systems – Mac, Windows 7, and Ubuntu 9.10. Only Ubuntu demonstrated a real lag between pings as shown above. All ping times were between 50 and 100ms (which is normal). The speed test showed between 16Mbps and 20Mbps for all three OSes but loading the main Google… Read more »

Dave Hancock
Dave Hancock
14 years ago

I’m getting 9.36-13.48Mbps (depending on server). My IP is 72.230.

Ian L
14 years ago

You may want to check your speeds against another RR-located speedtest site: http://speedtest.texas.rr.com

I’m on Comcast (which appears to take Level3 to the speedtest site) and I’m able to pull (PowerBoosted) 35 Mbps down and ~9.8 Mbps up off of that test. So since the server is definitely not congested and it’s on RR’s network, it might be a good way to test out whether you’re getting crappy speeds overall or whether the speed test site is just sucking it up.

waiting and watching
waiting and watching
14 years ago
Reply to  Ian L

To texas.rr speedtest I got:

7710.66 kbps down
368.10 kbps up

98.x.x.x IP

BrionS
Editor
14 years ago
Reply to  Ian L

Nothing surprising with this one – about the same as the others:

Download Speed: 17382 kbps (2172.8 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 366 kbps (45.8 KB/sec transfer rate)
Latency: 60 ms
Tuesday, November 10, 2009 6:42:01 AM

jr
jr
14 years ago

Road Walker

waiting and watching
waiting and watching
14 years ago

Just got off the phone with a lady from TWC about TV problems, and TWC is doing a LOT tonight across the country on TV, internet, and phones. She wasn’t really sure what they were doing, but were doing something to all of them in different regions of the country. 🙁

BrionS
Editor
14 years ago

I don’t even know why TWC has a Network Status page…it’s never helpful especially when it could be on nights like last night.

http://help.rr.com/HMSLogic/network_status.aspx

waiting and watching
waiting and watching
14 years ago
Reply to  BrionS

Just wait until you have a road runner problem and are not getting service and try to call TWC about it. I bet the first thing they tell you after “we do not detect and outage in your area”, is for you to check the network status page.

Remember, they are telling you to check a website, when you are calling about not having internet services. That is why they have the network status page. So the glorified secretaries that answer your customer call center have something to tell you when they have no real answers.

Uncle Ken
Uncle Ken
14 years ago

Don’t be hard on the support staff. They can only work with what they a given
and im sure they are not given much.

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