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A Preview of What’s Coming: They’re Baaaack! Astroturfing “Consumer Group” TWAlex Conveniently Found Advocating His Views…

Phillip Dampier April 19, 2009 Editorial & Site News 31 Comments

Sometimes this is too easy. They underestimate us every time.

The “education campaign” Time Warner promised has begun, and it’s Amateur Hour! TWAlex is back tweeting a “pro-consumer” advocacy campaign FOR tiered Internet pricing. But as you’ll learn shortly, it’s all going to backfire on them as we expose the hackery. A number of our readers are already on the case, and we’ll have our own package letting you know the facts they left out!

Stay tuned!

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Jeffrey_Bays
Jeffrey_Bays
15 years ago

IF you have not seen it yet, the new Frontier newspaper add is great. They used quotes from TW’s press release, made reference to a cap free internet and changed the Frontier phone number to 54NoCap.

Elliot
Elliot
15 years ago
Reply to  Jeffrey_Bays

is it online anywhere?

Jeffrey_Bays
Jeffrey_Bays
15 years ago
Reply to  Elliot

I could not find it anywhere.

jr
jr
15 years ago

Three-card Monte is Time Warner’s favorite game

Craig
Craig
15 years ago

Article on the TWC stuff on the NY Times Business Section, Its a very good article

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/20/business/20isp.html?_r=1&partner=rss&emc=rss

T.M.
T.M.
15 years ago
Reply to  Craig

Interesting article. Thanks for the link.

Dan
Dan
15 years ago

2016: The future of the Cable/Television/Phone industry – A Consumer’s Dream Feel free to make this into a headline: I don’t really know that it fits as a comment to anything existing. The other day I noticed something peculiar on my DirecTV receiver. They had upgraded my receiver to 1080p resolution overnight (the same resolution used in Blu-Ray DVD’s.) I don’t have a Blu-Ray player, but I can assume the picture is incredible. I went to see what programming was available in 1080p so I could check it out, and I wasn’t surprised to see that right now, it was… Read more »

Simon Seyz
Simon Seyz
15 years ago

Just think… if it weren’t for net neutrality, nobody would be able to access this Web site (unless they would wait for it to load at 1kb per minute).

T.M.
T.M.
15 years ago
Reply to  Simon Seyz

I don’t believe net neutrality even exists as a law at this point. I may be wrong.

Paul R
Paul R
15 years ago
Reply to  T.M.

I believe you are correct, ‘net neutraility’ was introduced but I believe it was shot down by ‘special interest groups’, (read cable/phone companies.)

Brion
Editor
15 years ago
Reply to  Paul R

The group American Consumer Institute (ACI) helped shoot it down. They’re the ones promoting “usage tiers are good” now on behalf of the telcom industry.

Simon Seyz
Simon Seyz
15 years ago
Reply to  Brion

Well, if not “net neutrality”, then the absence of “not net neutrality”. What I meant to get across is that if content providers had to pay bribes to TWC, sites like these would be inconvenient to access and a page load might take a minute or two.

Gass Pirate
Gass Pirate
15 years ago

http://billniemeyer.tv/images/cable-share-tv-hhs-2009-04.jpg

Cable TV subscriptions are falling like there’s no tomorrow!!! Check out the graph.

Craig
Craig
15 years ago

Shouldn’t TWC have release their Q1 report a few days ago? has anyone gotten a hold of it

T.M.
T.M.
15 years ago
Reply to  Craig
T.M.
T.M.
15 years ago

If cable subscribership is on the decline (and it is according to the above graph) that only makes it all the more likely that the Cable companies concerns over free HD video on the web is a factor of consideration in this teired pricing business. They probably see the trend of less cable subscription and the growing shift to the internet and are asking themselves how can we maintain and grow or profits with these new trends?

Jason
Jason
15 years ago
Reply to  T.M.

You must be a rocket scientist.

T.M.
T.M.
15 years ago
Reply to  Jason

That’s uncalled for. I was merely pointing out that the graph supports the view that they are worried about lost subscribers to internet.

TWC pee in you Wheaties this morning?

Jason
Jason
15 years ago
Reply to  T.M.

Everyone knows exactly why TWC is doing this. You’re reiterating what everyone has been saying since the dawn of internet streaming of video. It was only a matter of time until someone did it.

Simon Seyz
Simon Seyz
15 years ago
Reply to  Jason

Jason’s just upset at the prospect of having to watch porn at work. It’s just not gonna work out in his cubicle, with all those noisy people staring at his screen, you know?

T.M.
T.M.
15 years ago

I reported your lame attempt at sarcasm. It serves no purpose to forward our view on this issue.

Larrry
Larrry
15 years ago

Here’s an interesting article I saw posted on broadband reports.

http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/163344/why_metered_broadband_would_work.html

AC
AC
15 years ago

Lets not forget the large drop in cable subscribers is also due in large part to the economy, and not necessarily related to the net. When someone loses their job, cable is often one of the first things to go.

Lummox JR
Lummox JR
15 years ago

I’m not surprised to see the company regrouping. The gall factor wafting off them is suggestive of somebody high up panicking over Netflix and Hulu, and realizing if they don’t try to implement caps soon they might not get the chance. Frankly I like cable TV and I don’t watch a lot of shows online. It’s tedious to watch stuff chained to the computer. I have a nice TV, and darn it I’m gonna use it. While a Roku sounds vaguely interesting, I don’t want to switch to a rental model for TV. I just like to be able to… Read more »

Simon Seyz
Simon Seyz
15 years ago
Reply to  Lummox JR

Bingo! You’re right in saying “realizing if they don’t try to implement caps soon they might not get the chance”. Right on the money. The FTC is looking in to cracking down, so they figure they better jam the price gouging in within the next year, or they’re stuck. Hopefully the FTC starts treating them like a utility. I don’t mind paying per GB; $0.25 per gigabyte is a fair price–not $1.00 over 60 plus $45 flat. Using the Comcast 250 GB cap as an example, at $0.25 a gig, the bill would be $62.50. That sounds fair. A $150… Read more »

Dan
Dan
15 years ago
Reply to  Simon Seyz

I do mind paying per GB, just like I would mind if I had to pay for each mile I drove down the street, or each piece of poop I flushed down my toilet. I don’t mind paying for better bandwidth, but if they’re gonna offer me 10mbps they ought to let me take advantage of it. This is exactly the attitude TWC wants to see from us, they want us to make concessions. They want us to say, well, caps aren’t so bad if they’re a little higher, or we can deal with the overage charges if you reduce… Read more »

Michael
15 years ago

Again i guess its going to be time shortly to make a change to Frontier or Earthlink, i am going to cheer as I see customers from Time Warner leave in droves, and I hope WE ALL Stick to our guns and stick it to them hard. They are going to get whats coming to them. I Just need to find another provider for my TV and i will go back to frontier for my phone. So instead of keeping me for 2 services aside from internet they will get NONE of my business because they punish you for dumping… Read more »

T.M.
T.M.
15 years ago

“Frankly I like cable TV and I don’t watch a lot of shows online. It’s tedious to watch stuff chained to the computer. I have a nice TV, and darn it I’m gonna use it.” I feel the same way, but I also know that my next TV will accept input from a PC. And that trend is growing strong. I’ll likely build a simple PC that will allow me to interface my current over-the-air signal with streaming internet video. Internet based TV is the way of the future. On demand high def is here. The next step is internet… Read more »

Ron Dafoe
Ron Dafoe
15 years ago

The thing is about Time Warner is they have the resources to make the next set top cable box. Make it Internet capable.

Make it stream Netflix like the XBox 360 for a small price (with the 360 you need to be a gold subscriber to use netflix), make the Hulu channel or the YouTube channel or whatever for a small fee.

They can do it, but they are stuck in their current business model and can’t seem to think outside the box.

Simon Seyz
Simon Seyz
15 years ago

No matter how much the TWC talking heads try to convince us otherwise, cable and broadband signals use the same TUBES and should be treated the same. Because they are the same. I just took a look at my router, and it just so happens to be using the cable jack on which I could receive a cable TV signal. (But I don’t… haven’t had cable for at least two years). If you want to price on consumption, you better be willing to price cable TV the same way. Not everyone is happy about subsidizing BET, MTV, VH1, you know???… Read more »

Uncle Ken
Uncle Ken
15 years ago

IMHO if I may. A Classic in the making. Everybody is broke. As a poster above pointed out if you’re now making $7 an hour a $150 plan is not in your future. I still think regulation is needed and some will disagree. Ok no problem this is a free speech website. I will never stab somebody in the back but at times I may ask a person what they based their claim on. It’s a big world and that person just may point me to a site that has a good view. We choose what we read and we… Read more »

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