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Time Warner’s $3.95 Cable Modem Fee Fiasco Continues: Killer Hold Times, Long Lines

Phillip Dampier October 8, 2012 Consumer News, Editorial & Site News, Internet Overcharging, Time Warner Cable 8 Comments

Shelly, a Time Warner Cable customer in New York City, ended up with a modem not on the company’s “approved for purchase” list, based on the recommendation of… Time Warner Cable.

Jon Weinberg has devoted more than six hours of his life trying to navigate around Time Warner Cable’s forthcoming $3.95 monthly modem rental fee, with no end in sight.

The 15-year Time Warner Cable customer is just about fed up and has started shopping around for another provider. The Staten Island resident tells Stop the Cap! asking for an additional $3.95 a month for a five year old cable modem is probably the last straw.

“Time Warner’s easy-to-miss postcard probably cost the company around 80 cents to print and mail, but their investment is going to cost them more than $1,500 a year they will shortly no longer be getting from me,” Weinberg said.

Weinberg, along with dozens of other Time Warner Cable customers in the Big Apple have been sharing their stories with Stop the Cap! since they learned the cable company was back for more of their hard-earned dough.

“This is simply ridiculous, because they have gotten enough money from me several times over to have paid for their modem,” Weinberg says. “I could understand if they wanted to charge new customers extra for a new modem ($2.50 a month), but demanding current customers pay $3.95 for equipment that is several years old is out of line.”

Many Time Warner Cable customers are choosing to purchase their own cable modems to avoid the fee, but the cable operator is making that as hard as possible. Customers are complaining about the very limited selection of “approved modems,” incredibly long hold times and delays activating new equipment, and impossibly long lines at the company’s store to return old equipment.

“I called seven times last week, always being left on hold for more than 30 minutes, trying to get my new Motorola 6141 modem activated,” Weinberg says. “When someone finally answers, it sounds like they are working out of a home and don’t understand what I am asking.”

Weinberg and several other readers, including your editor, also endured extended hold times and problems activating customer-owned modems. A supervisor earlier told Stop the Cap! a change to their billing system made it difficult to provision customer-owned modems last week. That problem appeared to be resolved by Saturday, but long hold times of 15-60 are not unusual after telling Time Warner’s automated  attendant you need to activate new equipment.

“Time Warner uses the same relentless hold music with a not-so-subtle prompt to use their online chat function, which connects you to India, Guatemala, or maybe the Philippines, with all of the frustrating results you can expect,” Weinberg says. “I tried that route while waiting on hold for 40 minutes and they told me I should call in because they could not handle my request.”

Krakow

Gary Krakow, senior technology correspondent for TheStreet, suspects this cable modem fee could turn out to be a giant nightmare for customers. Some customers, including Krakow, are initially being told it will take several days to provision customer-owned equipment:

After 5 interactive minutes [with Time Warner's automated call attendant] I was transferred to Lina (that’s what it sounded like when she spoke into her headset). She’s one of Time Warner’s national advisers. I told her exactly what I wanted to do. She listened attentively and took down a lot of information. She then gave me a “case number” and told me to hold on to speak with someone on the Time Warner Provisioning Team.

After a minute or so I was speaking with Monica, who called herself a Customer Service agent. She began asking me to repeat all my information again, but I insisted that she could find all of that by searching the case number from Lina. After a minute or two (we all had to wait for Lina to exit the file) Monica had all the info she needed and began typing in a new  computer file.

In a minute or so she was done. She gave me a confirmation number (different from the case number) and told me that I’ll get a return call when they were ready. It turns out it will take as much as three days for a technician to make the change.

“But wait!” I exclaimed. “Your postcard had me go to your Web site, where I followed the instructions – installed the new modem – and called you to turn it on.”

Monica’s response: “Put back the old modem”.

Krakow is annoyed Time Warner gave New York-area customers just two weeks’ notice of the forthcoming fee and has so far dropped the ball helping out customers trying to avoid it.

“I can’t describe how pissed off I am with the cable company right now,” says Shelly, a Stop the Cap! reader from Manhattan. “I almost threw out their postcard because it looked like it was printed by someone on their personal ink jet printer. Time Warner has been totally unprofessional and unhelpful.”

Shelly ended up getting conflicting information from Time Warner about what modem to buy. A call center representative recommended modems from the company’s rental list, not the approved for purchase list.

“I bought and received the exact same modem Time Warner gave me a year ago for my service and then they told me they cannot activate it because it is not on their list,” Shelly says. “It’s the exact same modem so it must work, but they absolutely refused to help me and now I am out a 15% restocking fee and return postage to send this thing back.”

A supervisor offered her a $5 courtesy credit for the misunderstanding. Shelly was not impressed.

“It will cost me $15 in restock and shipping fees to deal with the problem they created with their money-grubbing.”

Verizon FiOS is not yet in her neighborhood, but Shelly says she will remember the modem fee when Verizon knocks on her door.

“This is an excellent example of how Time Warner treats customers,” she says. “They are in a real hurry to charge us more but can’t be bothered when customers want to avoid their crap.”

Weinberg finally managed to get his modem activated on Sunday, after another 45 minutes on hold. But his aggravation is not over.

“I decided to drop off my old equipment at the cable store and was told there would be at least a 90 minute wait with 20 people in line ahead of me, several with their own cable modems to return,” Weinberg reports. “They had two people working the desk while two others seemed to be doing paperwork. I left.”

Krakow ran into the same problem at the Time Warner Cable store on Manhattan’s Upper West Side.

“The line was out the door,” Krakow said. “I was told there was a one hour wait to ‘get a number and wait some more.’”

One strange side effect of the modem rental fee is that Time Warner Cable will allow you to keep your current cable (eMTA) modem if it is also used to support the company’s phone service. If you purchase your own cable modem, the company will deactivate the cable modem ports on the modem/eMTA they supplied and will not charge you a modem rental fee, even though you are still using their equipment.

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  1. Tom W says:

    Purchased the Motorola Surfboard SB 6141 on Amazon.com for $109.99 + shipping ($114.99). The price went up the next day to $129. So I’m glad I bought it when I did. I called Time Warner Cable San Diego, activated the modem at around 10pm on Friday, 10/5. That process took about 15 minutes on the phone. Modem works fine, however if you activate the Motorola SB 6141 on their standard internet plan (10mbps download, Powerboost doesn’t work, but I do get my advertised speeds. On Saturday, 10/6, I dropped the modem off at the TWC office, in and out 10 minutes with no problem. I’m thinking that will change, because I have reason to think our TWC San Diego division hasn’t sent out the modem rental fee notices yet.

  2. jr says:

    The Glenn Britt salary tax

  3. Ivan says:

    If you buy a used cable modem at a thrift store and attach it to your TWC cable, your modem acquires an IP address. Attempt to browse the web, and you are simply taken to a captive web page that identifies your MAC address and then instructs you to call tech support to register your modem.

    A number of cablemodem ISPs go even further, allowing current customers to log in with their primary username and password, and register the new modem with their account. Reboot, and you’re on the Internet.

    There’s just no excuse for one of the biggest cablemodem ISPs in the world failing to implement a similar convenience for their customers.

  4. Ellen says:

    Shelly, They will activate your modem. It only has to be the same DOCSIS version as your old one.

    I bought a used RCA DCM425C on EBay for $18 and TWC activated it today. It will be sending this message in fact.

    Before I bought the modem, I chatted with TWC for half an hour to find out if they would activate a modem that wasn’t on the recommended list. The first rep never got around to considering activation because he insisted that the modem I wanted to purchase wouldn’t work because it wasn’t on the recommended list. When I typed, “Even though the very same modem works now?” And he typed back “Yes.” I asked to chat with someone on a higher level. This guy was smarter but it took him about 20 minutes to find out. He kept putting me on hold and coming back with half answers or misinformation. But I persisted, because I knew that “recommended” does not mean “required.” Once he confirmed that TWC would activate the modem, and, being a chat, I had it in writing, I ordered the modem. (As an aside, it’s got a TWC sticker on it and unlike the modem it’s replacing it has an internet on/off switch – an upgrade!)

    When I called TWC to give them the new MAC address, they told me it would take up to three days to activate and they would call me when it was complete. So imagine my surprise when the green light on my Airport Extreme turned to flashing yellow and I was kicked off the net this morning. I figured that they had
    made the switch, so I plugged in the new modem and voila….after about three or four minutes my connection
    was back. As for TWC’s phone call….I’m still waiting for them to advise me they have made the change.

    I think that TWC does not provide clear and enough info to their chat and phone reps. Their training is obviously minimal as so many of the reps are clueless. Don’t listen to the one you spoke to. Don’t send your modem back and pay a restocking fee. If it’s the same DOCSIS version, it will work and they will activate it.

    Ellen

  5. madman999 says:

    I just wanted to say that I FINALLY got my modems activated after about 10 days of phone calls, opening tickets and waiting for callbacks that never happened.

    With regards to TWC in NYC, Seems like the key here to ask the level or 2 representative if they can see your modem’s signal from their end(they have sophisticated enough tools to do that). the procedure is multistep-

    1st they need to register your modem’s mac address in the billing system, You need to tell them the exact make and model number and manufacturer and if it is DOCSIS 2.0 or 3.0 and repeat it several times. I think my issue was the customer service rep put that info in wrong as it was incorrect in my billing page..

    After this is verified, get yourself transferred to a level 3 technician who can permission the mac address on their system. you can;t get internet because the problem you are having is that your modem will come up with a diag address of 192.168.100.1 if it can;t get a DHCP address from the ISP. You browse to this address in your webbrowser to verify that the modem is atleast functional. the diag page has all sorts of semi useful info like signal strength(stuff you would not get if your modem was defective) and a log file showing the dhcp failures. this proves that your modem is connecting to the ISP. Also, be sure to tell them again, your mac address, make and model number and docsis version.

    If you can help it, stay on the line with them. my mistake that cost me several days was that I took them at their word that they would permission it and call me back. that happened at one installation but not another.

    goodluck!

    • dagger1980 says:

      madman999, did you get one of the approved modems activated or were you able to get a modem that isn’t on the approved (for purchase) list? Thanks

  6. madman999 says:

    it was an approved modem-the oldie but still good until they pull the rug out Motorola SB5101U. These can be found used on ebay for under 24$. Can;t find a DOCSIS 3.0 Modem used or under 99$ now.

    It;s docsis 2.0 just like the RCA Thompson one it replaced. Still pulls in the 10 down 1 up speeds.

    Another thing that you all might find interesting. they are pushing a ‘free” upgrade to Turbo Internet tier for a not so free price of 10$ additional per month after i pressed the service rep for more info(most people might say”free upgrade? Sure!!!’. What they don;t seem to mention is that you probably need a Docsis 3.0 modem and a gig capable router to achieve those speeds-2 things the average person not paying any attention would probably not mess with. This is like “service slamming” by the telco companies.







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