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Ex-Verizon Customers: Beware of Frontier “Upgrades” That Bring Slower Speeds

Phillip Dampier May 30, 2012 Broadband Speed, Consumer News, Editorial & Site News, Frontier, Rural Broadband 4 Comments

Customers promised big savings from dropping their old Verizon plans found tricks, traps, and speed reductions.

Beware of telemarketers bearing gifts.

Frontier Communications has embarked on a sales push to convince customers adopted from Verizon Communications to “upgrade” their grandfathered Verizon broadband plans to new offerings from Frontier.

But Stop the Cap! has received more than a dozen complaints from customers who discovered their broadband speeds were slashed, sometimes significantly, after taking Frontier up on one of their offers.

“Whenever you call Frontier customer service, they always have an offer for you that they claim will save you money and I fell for it,” Tim Falston says.

Falston has been a Stop the Cap! reader since he learned Frontier Communications was buying out his Verizon landline in 2010.

“Frontier promised me nothing would change after they took over from Verizon, but of course a lot changed when I agreed to switch to a new bundled service package Frontier was offering for my phone and Internet service,” Falston writes.

Falston thought he was keeping his 8Mbps DSL service Verizon had been selling him for nearly five years, only now he would save at least $10 a month bundling some of Frontier’s other products into his package. A few days after signing up, he found his broadband speeds were lacking. It turned out Frontier reduced his speed to just under 3Mbps. A few days later, the company also mailed him a new DSL modem/router that he later learned came with a monthly fee that more than wiped out his “savings.”

“This was the worst decision I ever made, and Frontier never warned me the package I was signing up for cut my speeds more than half and stuck me with a modem I don’t want or need,” Falston said.

Unfortunately, when Falston called Frontier to switch back to his old plan, he was told it was no longer available and he had to choose from Frontier’s current services that came with higher prices and term contracts.

Surprise! Modem rental fee!

“It’s bait and switch and should be illegal,” Falston said. “I was told that everything about my service was to stay the same if I agreed to their bundle, and I think they figured most people have no idea about speeds and just accept what they are given, but I was never told about the modem or the rental fee that comes with it, and my old Verizon equipment worked just fine.”

Frontier won’t even sell Falston 8Mbps service, even though he had it for half a decade.

“They want to sell me 3Mbps and tell me that is all my line will support,” Falston complains. “That was after I finally convinced them to talk to me — the account is in the wife’s name and Frontier blocked me because of ‘security reasons’ until they spoke with her.”

Stop the Cap! recommended Falston schedule a service call and speak to a local technician about the problem. Experience shows employees on the ground far away from the customer service department can often cut through Frontier’s red tape. That worked for Falston who quickly got his old Verizon plan back after the technician made a few phone calls from Falston’s home.

“The tech shook his head and said he deals with these problems all day long and has managed to get customers back on old plans Frontier’s customer service says are long gone,” Falston said. “He told me specifically ‘do not change any plans you signed up for with Verizon — all of the offers from Frontier come at higher prices and fewer features.’”

So if Frontier has an offer you cannot refuse, refuse it anyway, at least if your old phone company was Verizon Communications. You are probably better off with what you have today.

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Currently there are 4 comments on this Article:

  1. Smith6612 says:

    A few threads surprisingly (well, unsurprisingly) appeared on DSLReports about this same exact issue. The advice given in those threads is consistent with this article and with what other technicians have been saying. Avoid the bait and stick with what you’ve got from Verizon.

    I also don’t understand what the obsession is with 3Mbps or under. It’s unbelievable that companies say speeds are unavailable when they either were or are present. I see this all the time at Verizon’s own forums where I have to get users to a speed past 3Mbps after Verizon says “No Can Do.” Either way though, glad to see the technicians as always are on the customer side rather than the sales policies.

  2. Sagle Idaho says:

    We located from the Austin, Texas area a year ago to Sagle, Idaho. We had RR cable, phone and internet blazing fast. After being assured by the property management company that we could get cable, DSL etc. internet access, we were unable to get anything but Wildblue or dial up. Frontier is the monopoly in this area, but even though the owner had DSL with them, we are not eligible due to too much demand and too few lines. It’s now been a year, and still no improvements to the infrastructure. It sounds like they are splitting lines for anyone who moves off the legacy Verizon service to make more money without actually improving the system.

    As it stands, no service in the near future if at all as I talked with a management person that my landlord has connections to. This man said that if 50 customers dropped in this neighborhood, we still couldn’t get DSL….WTF? Where did all that demand just go?

    Back on topic, if you have Verizon keep it. The person I spoke with also informed me that when Frontier took over Verizon, the lines were really bad and they have been spending millions on improving the system. Yeah right! Improving it while splitting lines to improve their profits!

  3. Susan says:

    I have been having speed problems on my Frontier (supposedly) 3Mbps line lately, an upgrade I got back in the old Verizon days as well. The last time when I was on the phone with speedtest.net came back with a whopping 1.28Mbps and the tech told me that was about as good as I could expect with my ‘old modem’ and it would probably get worse from now on. Note, it worked just fine about 30 minutes before I called.

    So, foolishly, I inquired about getting a new modem, since mine is indeed several years old. He was all ready to up-sell me a new one so I asked the price, “It’s only $9.95 a month!” I said, no, what would it cost me to BUY one, not rent one for the rest of my life since I had been there and done that back with Ma Bell phones back in the day (yes, I really am that old). The tech then told me they don’t sell them, just lease.

    So I asked if I could buy one from a retailer, say Amazon? First the tech tried to tell me I couldn’t, that I had to use their Frontier DSL modems, which is clearly NOT true since I had my old working Verizon one right there on the desk. Then he admitted I could buy one from somewhere else, but that “I wouldn’t be able to get any tech support from Frontier in the future since it wouldn’t be our modem”?!? So if I bought a new modem and I was having ANY service issues, I wouldn’t be able to contact tech support anymore???? WTF!

    After hanging up on the moron tech, I unplugged the modem, let it sit for 10 minutes and restarted it. Low and behold, 2.86Mbps again.

    I can’t believe I am saying this but I miss Verizon as my phone and DSL provider…

  4. will says:

    I am a Frontier customer coming from Verizon and there is no truth to this. This seems like it was fabricated by a competitor such as Comcast.







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