Comments on: Frontier: What Fiber? Company Officials Claim Frontier Serves “Some Customers” With Fiber Service http://stopthecap.com/2009/12/14/frontier-what-fiber-company-officials-claim-frontier-serves-some-customers-with-fiber-service/ Promoting Better Broadband, Fighting Data Caps, Usage-Based Billing, & Other Internet Overcharging Schemes Thu, 29 Jul 2010 01:45:29 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1-alpha-15359 By: Stop the Cap! » Frontier’s Low-Fiber Diet: ‘Most Users Don’t Need Ultra-Fast Internet Access,’ Says Company Official http://stopthecap.com/2009/12/14/frontier-what-fiber-company-officials-claim-frontier-serves-some-customers-with-fiber-service/comment-page-1/#comment-8743 Stop the Cap! » Frontier’s Low-Fiber Diet: ‘Most Users Don’t Need Ultra-Fast Internet Access,’ Says Company Official Mon, 15 Feb 2010 04:43:46 +0000 http://stopthecap.com/?p=6536#comment-8743 [...] to kettle.  Frontier’s illusory promises for fiber optic connectivity in states like West Virginia, where it seeks to take over the majority of the state’s phone [...] [...] to kettle.  Frontier’s illusory promises for fiber optic connectivity in states like West Virginia, where it seeks to take over the majority of the state’s phone [...]

]]> By: Bob http://stopthecap.com/2009/12/14/frontier-what-fiber-company-officials-claim-frontier-serves-some-customers-with-fiber-service/comment-page-1/#comment-8032 Bob Tue, 15 Dec 2009 22:30:58 +0000 http://stopthecap.com/?p=6536#comment-8032 Has anyone asked Mr. Paul Espinosa, of Frontier, to tell what other markets that Frontier offers fiber? Has anyone asked Mr. Paul Espinosa, of Frontier, to tell what other markets that Frontier offers fiber?

]]> By: jr http://stopthecap.com/2009/12/14/frontier-what-fiber-company-officials-claim-frontier-serves-some-customers-with-fiber-service/comment-page-1/#comment-8022 jr Mon, 14 Dec 2009 23:45:18 +0000 http://stopthecap.com/?p=6536#comment-8022 "the bumpkins will believe anything"-Frontier “the bumpkins will believe anything”-Frontier

]]> By: Smith6612 http://stopthecap.com/2009/12/14/frontier-what-fiber-company-officials-claim-frontier-serves-some-customers-with-fiber-service/comment-page-1/#comment-8017 Smith6612 Mon, 14 Dec 2009 21:41:16 +0000 http://stopthecap.com/?p=6536#comment-8017 I do recall seeing an article on DSLReports two years ago, maybe three during the summer time where Frontier said they hooked up their first few Fiber Optic customers for residential. Of course, it appeared to be in new neighborhoods only. The only fiber Frontier has out where I am is Fiber that connects the remotes to the Central Office, and then a fiber line which provides the backbone to the CO for Voice and DSL/T* traffic. Also from what I've seen, DSL can support a technology called MLPPP and then ADSL2+ can be bonded as well which can help boost speeds by using two lines rather than one line for Internet service. If Frontier can't absolutely afford to run fiber to homes and businesses, if they have lots of DSLAM space left over and unused copper sitting around, they could offer up a Bonded ADSL2+ or MLPPP plan to those in need of speed. Imagine that, 20+Mbps/2+Mbps service over DSL for those lucky enough to even get that on two 10/1 lines. Of course, that package probably won't be ordered much at all since people need to know what they're doing to set it up and keep it up, not to mention the complexity of MLPPP. I'd certainly order it, as I already have a Linksys router that can be used with Tomato/DD-WRT, and I can set up one of my old PCs as a router as well. Of course in my area, higher speeds to residents as well as the upload on the 3Mbps package could use some work... I do recall seeing an article on DSLReports two years ago, maybe three during the summer time where Frontier said they hooked up their first few Fiber Optic customers for residential. Of course, it appeared to be in new neighborhoods only. The only fiber Frontier has out where I am is Fiber that connects the remotes to the Central Office, and then a fiber line which provides the backbone to the CO for Voice and DSL/T* traffic.

Also from what I’ve seen, DSL can support a technology called MLPPP and then ADSL2+ can be bonded as well which can help boost speeds by using two lines rather than one line for Internet service. If Frontier can’t absolutely afford to run fiber to homes and businesses, if they have lots of DSLAM space left over and unused copper sitting around, they could offer up a Bonded ADSL2+ or MLPPP plan to those in need of speed. Imagine that, 20+Mbps/2+Mbps service over DSL for those lucky enough to even get that on two 10/1 lines. Of course, that package probably won’t be ordered much at all since people need to know what they’re doing to set it up and keep it up, not to mention the complexity of MLPPP. I’d certainly order it, as I already have a Linksys router that can be used with Tomato/DD-WRT, and I can set up one of my old PCs as a router as well.

Of course in my area, higher speeds to residents as well as the upload on the 3Mbps package could use some work…

]]> By: Dave Hancock http://stopthecap.com/2009/12/14/frontier-what-fiber-company-officials-claim-frontier-serves-some-customers-with-fiber-service/comment-page-1/#comment-8014 Dave Hancock Mon, 14 Dec 2009 20:38:50 +0000 http://stopthecap.com/?p=6536#comment-8014 I do know of one area in Monroe county where Frontier claimed to have Fiber. That is along the first part of Waterford Way and on same parts of Valley Brook in the town of Perinton. I live at the other end of this neighborhood and last year there was a project to move all utilities there underground. After the project was completed Frontier posted a sign in the area announcing Fiber Optic Internet. It made sense as completely new lines were being installed and Frontier was likely sharing the expense with TW & Fairport Electric (who seemed to be doing most of the work). I live at the other end of the neighborhood and we have always had underground service (long before fiber came along) - so I can't swear that Fiber Internet is actually available over there. It is a relatively small area, but it does add a little (VERY little) legitimacy to their claim. I do know of one area in Monroe county where Frontier claimed to have Fiber. That is along the first part of Waterford Way and on same parts of Valley Brook in the town of Perinton.

I live at the other end of this neighborhood and last year there was a project to move all utilities there underground. After the project was completed Frontier posted a sign in the area announcing Fiber Optic Internet. It made sense as completely new lines were being installed and Frontier was likely sharing the expense with TW & Fairport Electric (who seemed to be doing most of the work).

I live at the other end of the neighborhood and we have always had underground service (long before fiber came along) – so I can’t swear that Fiber Internet is actually available over there.

It is a relatively small area, but it does add a little (VERY little) legitimacy to their claim.

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