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TV Everywhere Update: Networks Likely to Launch On Demand Online Video

Phillip Dampier July 5, 2009 Comcast/Xfinity, Time Warner Cable 25 Comments

globeSome additional details are emerging about the content partners and networks likely to participate in the joint Time Warner Cable-Comcast TV Everywhere (as long as you are a pay cable/telco video/satellite TV subscriber) partnership.

Turner Broadcasting (long since out of the control of Ted Turner, who was essentially escorted to the door years ago) is a key partner, which means TNT and TBS original series will be an essential part of the new service.  The network’s programming is already streamed to around 5,000 cable TV customers participating in a market trial.

Among the original shows the TNT and TBS networks air:

The Closer
Raising the Bar
Saving Grace
Leverage
My Boys
The Bill Engvall Show
Tyler Perry’s House of Payne

Also agreeing to participate in the venture: Rainbow Media, Scripps Networks and A&E Television Networks. That means you should also expect to see shows from these cable networks:

AMC
WE tv
The Independent Film Channel
Sundance Channel
HGTV
Food Network
DIY Network
Fine Living Network
Great American Country
A&E Network
History (Channel)
History International (Channel)
Bio (Channel)
Military History (Channel)
Crime & Investigation Network

The ultimate goal? To obliterate YouTube and Hulu TV as the most popular video websites in the United States.  Jeff Bewkes, CEO of Time Warner, fully expects TV Everywhere to be the nation’s largest and most popular destination for online video.

Some technical notes about accessing the service from Multichannel News:

At first, Comcast’s On-Demand Online content will be available only to customers who subscribe to both cable TV and broadband services, over only a Comcast-provided Internet connection through a subscriber’s cable modem, and via only the Comcast.net or Fancast.com portals. The MSO chose to “authenticate down to the subscriber level” to ensure the service will have a higher level of security out of the gate, said Comcast senior vice president of new media Matt Strauss.

Whereas Comcast had intended to provide On-Demand Online to subscribers solely through its own Web sites over its own broadband networks, Time Warner’s TV Everywhere imagines a decentralized way to let consumers log in to any participating sites to access content, including those run by the content owners.

Now Comcast has agreed to eventually allow video subscribers to access Time Warner’s content via TNT.tv and TBS.com, over any broadband connection they choose, although the specific mechanism for doing this hasn’t been determined yet.

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Currently there are 25 comments on this Article:

  1. Jim says:

    Wow they managed to pick up every show no one was searching for. I wish executives would take a step back and realize that putting up barriers around crappy content will only decrease the minuscule value their content started out with. These shows are so bad I don’t even think you can download them illegally… who would waste the time and bandwidth downloading those?

  2. Uncle Ken says:

    He forgot BET… Now there is something I would pay for…NOT. I hope they
    do it …Cable TV gets dumped saving $150 a month. Only things worth
    watching are pay as you go. Ill stick with rent rips and P2P. Im such a bad
    boy.

  3. Smith6612 says:

    Well, seeing as though I don’t watch TV much anymore since Stargate and Battlestar Galactica ended, this isn’t much use to me. I wonder if something like this would run against the caps that Comcast has and Time Warner’s if they do ever cap. Though if this does become popular, I wonder if these companies are going to make their software support Multicast so that home routers can send the same data to multiple PCs/devices at the same time. At least with things like these, I see them good services to provide for those who travel a lot, and typically wind up with say a hotel that has 13 channels, much of them containing news channels and weather, and maybe another channel.

  4. Jim says:

    I wonder if we can get info from Time Warner about this going against their caps. They have already stated that their VOIP phone service will not count against your cap and Skype/Vonage will. So I wouldn’t be surprised if they tried to not count this against the caps.

    • Right now they don’t have caps or tiers so let’s not ask them that question. Comcast has already said it will count against theirs, but 250GB is a lot of online TV, so I’m much more worried about other providers trying to tell us 5-40GB a month of usage is plenty.

  5. Wes S says:

    So… how does this differ from the FCC’s current investigation into exclusive phone handsets? This seems like the TV equivient of the same issue. What about basic cable? If I have the lowest 10 channel tier am I still alowed to watch whatever I want on their site? (not that I would want to…. until they get Discovery or something)

  6. Tim says:

    I don’t think these guys get it. People are going to Hulu because it is free. We are about to cancel our cable here because one you can watch the shows online, two you can save money and drop your TV package, and three upgrade your net to handle the bandwidth better since you are saving money by dropping the TV package. If all else fails, I can always fall back on Usenet. Most of the shows I watch, can be had on Usenet commercial free and in HD.

  7. Uncle Ken says:

    You guys are so right. Im trying to convince my TV paying person to drop to
    very basic as there is nothing on all those 100′s of channels worth
    watching. It is all filler. Naturally im getting bad vibes so I think ill just
    switch it myself. I can do that. The cable bill is way to much every month
    for nothing. I watch some streaming TV sometimes but not often because
    there is not much there either. Firefox tv is a joke and Hula is a little better
    until something worth watching is flagged. Nothing more then a bunch of
    old TV reruns. Been there twice and found very little worth watching sort
    of like TW’s line up.We are getting so screwed for nothing I lost count.
    So in return if there is something I have an itch to watch ill get it the old
    fashion way P2P or rip it. And they wonder why people do this scan your
    200 channels and see if there is anything worth watching. There are
    some great comment at http://slyck.com/index.php and
    http://slyck.com/index.php for a crack down on cell phones as well.

  8. Uncle Ken says:

    Just testing as my last comment did not go through.

  9. Uncle Ken says:

    Mr Smith I do not watch much TV myself but find with 200 channels if 10
    are worth anything I would be amazed. Its all filler that could block internet
    speeds. After all how much can you cram down a coax cable. Im using my
    POA to switch to basic TV as a $150 a month cable bill is to much. If im
    itching for a movie I can get in other ways and that is not very often. I do not
    own the place but spending is way out of control to continue very much
    longer. Im getting flack but im still going to do it. I get flack for everything
    anyways. Cable TV is a hump job. anything worth watching cost more.
    I almost think a good pair of rabbit ears and a converter box are the way to
    go. I want ala cart where I pick and chose. The government is getting very
    interested in cell blocks to a single provider and that should spill over
    to the internet as well. About time they got off their butts. Perhaps they
    finally figured out if we don’t spend the economy will tank more.

  10. Uncle Ken says:

    After thinking about this something smells bad. All the providers complain
    that they are running out of room on the lines yet they now want to allow
    streaming of their content where they say no room is available. Somebody
    is lying. Is that streaming coming from a slower internet connection
    from regular users or didthey just forget about the capacity they had hidden in the background?
    People would be stupid to agree to such things. Guess they want that
    extra over usage charge money. This is going to blow up in their faces.
    Some here said they use 2 to 3 TB a month. I don’t know on what unless
    on P2P, about the only thing that can transfer that much data that I know of.
    3 TB is much more then a mortal person could absorb in a month let alone
    the shear size of standalone drives needed to support it. Should the 3TB
    users be capped you bet. Should the granny 1 gig users be caped no way.

    • I think the only people using that much broadband are running their torrent application 24/7. To me, P2P is so five years ago. I don’t waste my time on it, and I suspect the neighborhood is probably grateful for it. There honestly isn’t much there I care about. People downloading hacked software from Pirate Bay are probably just subjecting themselves to viruses and trojan horses. I have so much music now why try and steal more? TV shows I don’t have time to watch? No. Movies I don’t care to see? Nah.

      I have one of those unlimited Rhapsody accounts which lets me download legally music for my MP3 player and as long as I pony up less than the price of one CD a month, I can listen to it forever. I can watch Hulu if I need to. Heck, I don’t even object to the concept of TV Everywhere as long as there is a level playing field, but I don’t think I’d use it much.

      2-3TB a month is craziness, but I’m not playing the ISP game of what cap works best for you. I think someone doing that much usage could be approached privately and dealt with instead of punishing every customer with loopy tiers and limits.

      You are right, however. TV Everywhere lies bare the theory that online video is going to clog the net. When Time Warner Cable and Comcast, two companies banging loudly on the propaganda drum playing this very tune wants to OWN the number one position in online video must-see sites, their entire argument falls flat on its face.

      • Tim says:

        That is you Phillip but for me, I do have some favorite TV shows: 24, Lost, Battlestar Galactica, Stargate SG-1, and others. Downloading the HD versions of the shows is around 1.5GB each or more depending on how compressed the video is. Some shows could run dvd5 size, ie 4.4GB. I have downloaded at least a few hundred gigs in a month easy when those shows are on. Usually, during this time, I rarely download anything. But as far as me hogging the bandwidth up? Well if I had like a 1Mb/s connection, I would have to keep that connection continuous for maybe days while on my 12Mb/s connection I would be done with 4.4GB file in like 45minutes. So which is worse? The slower connection or the faster one?

        • Smith6612 says:

          I see we have another BSG and Stargate fan here! :) Great shows, sad to see them end. Now if only I’d get those shows in 1080p HD (with H.264 codec) online someplace and pay for them I’d love that. I don’t mind waiting a day or two to download 10+GB worth of data. I do that all the time with Steam, but even still, waiting that long to pull down 10GB does get annoying after doing it over and over.

          • Tim says:

            I was deeply saddened when they canceled SG-1 and then Atlantis, even though I wasn’t a huge fan of Atlantis but it was at least one of the better sci-fi shows playing at the time. BSG, I was sad it ended but at the same time, I was sort of glad. The show really took a strange twist after season 2 and just got even more strange. If you have a HDTV less than 60″, you won’t notice a difference between 720p and 1080p if you sit like 10 feet or more away from it. I have a 50″ and I can’t tell any difference between 720p and 1080p content. Just so you know.

            Yes, 10GB on a slow connection can take an eternity. That is why speed is even more important than ever. With my connection now, I can download 10GB in one and half hours to two hours. I too have Steam and have several games that are least 4GB each. If I decided to download all of them, I could easily rack up 20GB on just games. People think that downloading a couple hundred gigs over a months time is a lot of data but that’s what they told me when I got a 500GB HDD 2-3 years ago after I built my PC. Now 500GB is nothing in a new PC. I always think years ahead of how things might be. I got 4GB RAM when everyone thought that was a lot too but now it is common place. I got a quad processor, Intel QX6700, when it first came out and people were like wow but now quads are popular. Anyways, the point I am getting at is don’t think how things are now. Have some foresight on how things will be. 100GB might be a lot of data to you but I guarantee you that in a year or two it will be nothing the way things are progressing. Everything is going to the net: TV, Phone, Data Storage, Movies, Music, Updates, Patches, Fixes, Game Consoles, DVD Players, Bluray Players, Audio equipment, and the list goes on.

            • Smith6612 says:

              I watch pretty much everything on my PC, as after all, that is honestly the only thing that can display HDTV content in my home. All of my TVs are standard definition which I plan on upgrading to some HDTVs in the future, and I use Dish Network as a TV provider. As per my box, I’m running an Intel i7 Extreme @3.06Ghz clock, 1066Mhz FSB, 16GB of 1066Mhz DDR3 RAM (I boosted this just a few days ago!), 3x nVidia GTX280s in SLi, 4TB of Seagate 1TB Barracuda drives in RAID 0@ 7200RPM. I’ve also got two 30″ monitors which are running at 2560×1600 resolution via DVI, each monitor having it’s own video card, with the third GPU having a dummy plug inserted into it. Lastly, I’m running Windows Vista Ultimate 64-bit. When it comes down to it, this is pretty much the computer I spend much of my time on (you can probably tell it is considering how much I’ve spent on it throughout the years with parts), and I can certainly see the difference between 1080p and 720p content on this PC. I do everything on here, from Folding@Home (SMP CPU client + 3 instances of the GPU client maxes out every component), watching TV, gaming (games like COD4, Team Fortress 2, Half-Life 2, Crysis, Star Wars: Battlefront II, you name it), and of course, web browsing and video watching (in HD of course). And yes, despite my slower lines and me having to spend more time waiting for the content to load, even though my DSL lines can hold more speed (I’m not upgrading the Verizon line, going straight to FiOS. The Frontier line, that’s going to be pushed to it’s limit on ADSL2+ as soon as the remote I’m coming out of is upgraded sometime soon), I’m still pulling down a couple hundred gigabytes a month myself.

              Otherwise, per Stargate and BSG, may I mention that on Garry’s Mod and Half-Life 2: Deathmatch, I’ve got a bunch of Stargate maps and content installed to the game. Garry’s Mod is great for Stargate content considering on what you can do in that game (away from all of the server/game crashes lol). I did hear they’re making another Stargate that has story lines from SG-1 and Atlantis that takes place on a ship, exploring the galaxy and such. I heard that a while ago so I’m not sure if it’s still taking place. I’ll have to check GateWorld.

              EDIT: Here it is! http://gateworld.net/universe/s1/

              EDIT2: I just checked my Program Files folders (both x86 and x64) and it turns out I have roughly 150GB of content installed for my games if you ignore my Steam Cache files. Many of these games I have are in fact from Digital Download stores, so imagine getting my games back on my connections if I were to nuke my drives!

              • Tim says:

                Sweet system man. Makes me feel like mine is old but it can still hang with the big boys. My next computer, I plan on during dual monitors too or I might just hook the thing up to my 50″ Samsung Plasma. :-)

                Yea Stargate Universe is suppose to be coming out in the fall. I am hoping it is going to be good but I am not counting on it. They said they are doing the show differently from SG-1 and Atlantis so who knows.

                • Uncle Ken says:

                  Mr. Smith has one kick butt system. I hope he did not forget the 8 or 10 LED
                  fans LOL. He has bragging rights.

                  • Uncle Ken says:

                    I forgot How can this be? Bill Gates said himself the normal user would
                    only need 256K of memory. Maybe I should dig out my Z80 from the
                    basement.

                  • Smith6612 says:

                    I didn’t forget that one bit. Case is fully Acrylic and is packed with LED lights (multiple colors. Much of the case is blue but I have some Pink and red LEDs by the two power supplies and some greens by the hard drives. I might sell those for some color changing ones and a light controller. As of right now I can only adjust the amount of power those LEDs get). I have a few large 250mm fans blowing air in and out of the case, and a few smaller ones for air intake. Might bump up to Water cooling if I need it, but my box stays at good temps while overclocking.

                    The CPU when idle is running slightly below ambient room temperature, video cards sit at 34c. Under full load while overclocking, CPU hasn’t gone past 50c and GPUs past 58c (at least from how far I pushed the hardware under full load while overclocking).

                    And yes the dual power supplies are for redundancy more than they are for extra power. Right now the video cards get their own supply, and the rest gets another supply. Should I have one of my PSUs fail on me, I can simply roll over the most important hardware to the other one until I install a new one, even though one PSU is more than enough to handle my box (1000 watt Antec).

  11. Uncle Ken says:

    “I think someone doing that much usage could be approached privately and dealt with instead of punishing every customer with loopy tiers and limits.”

    In the end you come up with a better way to say it then me then again im not that great a writer. There is so much difference between a 5 to 40 gig user and a terabyte user. With 5 gig you might as well turn it off even 40 gig. In 3 days if the shuttle lifts off ill be streaming NASA TV all day long but launches do not happen that often and I enjoy watching them. Anybody that straps themselves onto that big a fire cracker deserves to be watched and it’s a USA launch. Have to have some pride
    in that. Only we can do it right now. Thanks for smoothing out my rough edged comment.

  12. Stew says:

    There are a few things that are worth watching once in a while, 15 home shopping channels are not one of them. Where is the ala cart channel selection?

    Speaking of watching the shuttle launch on line, there are a lot good possibilities for the internet. WorldWide Telescope comes to mind. My daughter works in the bioi-chem area and the internet is vital to the work. Usage limits will inhibit this kind of innovation to the detriment of all on the planet (well those in orbit also).

  13. Uncle Ken says:

    I would be interested learning about the internet. WorldWide Telescope
    project. As I remember it was a 14 to 16 year old girl pure amateur using
    low tech equipment that found something that all the pros missed for
    years just not long ago. She gets naming rights for the discovery which
    is cool.

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