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	<title>Comments on: On Sock Puppets &amp; Industry Hacks: Reactions to Rep. Eric Massa&#8217;s Legislation &#8211; Predictable &amp; Transparent</title>
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		<title>By: Uncle Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Uncle Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil be aware im now using Firefox so I took your advice and I love it.
Ad blocker add-on better then se-x. This is when I noticed word the
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil be aware im now using Firefox so I took your advice and I love it.<br />
Ad blocker add-on better then se-x. This is when I noticed word the<br />
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		<title>By: Uncle Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Uncle Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 21:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil you still did not fix the character limit per line before wrap If PHP its easy.

Rick: I certainly won’t go as far as Brett but I think a middle of ground solution could be to charge an extra $5 a month and I do not mean every year. After all my internet bill has been the same for years. Their costs to provide service may be going down but the costs they have little control over are going up just like for me and you. Think what it would be like if that energy bill make it through congress. Caps and tiers are certainly a VERY HUGE money grab for CEO salaries and stockholders and to protect their precious little catalog of video nothing more.  At least around here there is a sure lot of extra capacity. Today is a perfect example it’s raining so think of all the people doing all the high data things people do video and games to pass the time. One would think my connection would be slow but an out of TWC’s system speed check shows the same speed numbers. (Speak easy test to NYC I used) When I see a slow down somebody usually dug up a main line somewhere and the story shows up later. Those you can’t avoid. So Rick let me know what you think of that idea. $48 extra a year I could handle. That being said the proposed granny tier should cost the same as a regular user, bandwidth being the cheap part of the equation. They still have to provide the wire, relays, switches, service, and who knows what else to a slow connection the same as a high data regular user. That being said all our modems are being throttled right now.  How else could they magically increase speeds to turbo users? By telling the modem it can change speeds. They send commands to your modem all the time but you knew that. Same as a TV control box. Disclaimer!! Im not for any caps or tiers of any kind and would have to bail out if it did happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil you still did not fix the character limit per line before wrap If PHP its easy.</p>
<p>Rick: I certainly won’t go as far as Brett but I think a middle of ground solution could be to charge an extra $5 a month and I do not mean every year. After all my internet bill has been the same for years. Their costs to provide service may be going down but the costs they have little control over are going up just like for me and you. Think what it would be like if that energy bill make it through congress. Caps and tiers are certainly a VERY HUGE money grab for CEO salaries and stockholders and to protect their precious little catalog of video nothing more.  At least around here there is a sure lot of extra capacity. Today is a perfect example it’s raining so think of all the people doing all the high data things people do video and games to pass the time. One would think my connection would be slow but an out of TWC’s system speed check shows the same speed numbers. (Speak easy test to NYC I used) When I see a slow down somebody usually dug up a main line somewhere and the story shows up later. Those you can’t avoid. So Rick let me know what you think of that idea. $48 extra a year I could handle. That being said the proposed granny tier should cost the same as a regular user, bandwidth being the cheap part of the equation. They still have to provide the wire, relays, switches, service, and who knows what else to a slow connection the same as a high data regular user. That being said all our modems are being throttled right now.  How else could they magically increase speeds to turbo users? By telling the modem it can change speeds. They send commands to your modem all the time but you knew that. Same as a TV control box. Disclaimer!! Im not for any caps or tiers of any kind and would have to bail out if it did happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 18:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brett....Oh just stop. Your &quot;proportion to what they use&quot; argument is absurd and unfounded. We all understand marginal costs and their is no real marginal cost to bandwidth. At the risk of beating a dead horse, &quot;bandwidth has no production cost and is theoretically limitless, unlike water, gas electricity and other commodities. The cost of bandwidth is the cost of maintaining infrastructure, and current uncapped pricing models have proven to be profitable and sustainable business models. The only (albeit false) justification to apply caps and overage charges is to prop up lost revenue in other business units such as VoD cable. Get a life and quit trying to push your propaganda BS in a forum frequented by intelligent consumers. It doesn&#039;t play well and is truly obnoxious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brett&#8230;.Oh just stop. Your &#8220;proportion to what they use&#8221; argument is absurd and unfounded. We all understand marginal costs and their is no real marginal cost to bandwidth. At the risk of beating a dead horse, &#8220;bandwidth has no production cost and is theoretically limitless, unlike water, gas electricity and other commodities. The cost of bandwidth is the cost of maintaining infrastructure, and current uncapped pricing models have proven to be profitable and sustainable business models. The only (albeit false) justification to apply caps and overage charges is to prop up lost revenue in other business units such as VoD cable. Get a life and quit trying to push your propaganda BS in a forum frequented by intelligent consumers. It doesn&#8217;t play well and is truly obnoxious.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett Glass</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett Glass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 17:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is absurd. Why is someone a &quot;sock puppet&quot; merely because he or she points out that people who consume more expensive resources ought to pay more? Bandwidth costs money. A lot of it, especially in rural areas. There&#039;s nothing wrong with asking people to pay in proportion to what they use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is absurd. Why is someone a &#8220;sock puppet&#8221; merely because he or she points out that people who consume more expensive resources ought to pay more? Bandwidth costs money. A lot of it, especially in rural areas. There&#8217;s nothing wrong with asking people to pay in proportion to what they use.</p>
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		<title>By: Dean S.B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dean S.B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 03:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have shared this article on my Facebook profile.

I DO believe that this issue is MORE IMPORTANT then a LOT of people think!!

If Time-Warner, AT&amp;T, and Comcast are allowed to impose these &quot;bandwidth caps&quot; and Internet overcharging schemes NOW, then it will only be a matter of time before MORE Cable &amp; Phone companies...large, medium, and small, will impose similar Internet Overcharging schemes!!

If you think this Internet Overcharging scheme is a &quot;difficult nut to crack&quot; NOW, how difficult will it be once the practice gets more widespread in the next few years?

That is WHY I say it&#039;s better off to KILL this UNFAIR practice NOW...while it&#039;s in its INFANCY...BEFORE MORE companies jump on the &quot;Internet Overcharging&quot; bandwagon!!

Dean</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have shared this article on my Facebook profile.</p>
<p>I DO believe that this issue is MORE IMPORTANT then a LOT of people think!!</p>
<p>If Time-Warner, AT&amp;T, and Comcast are allowed to impose these &#8220;bandwidth caps&#8221; and Internet overcharging schemes NOW, then it will only be a matter of time before MORE Cable &amp; Phone companies&#8230;large, medium, and small, will impose similar Internet Overcharging schemes!!</p>
<p>If you think this Internet Overcharging scheme is a &#8220;difficult nut to crack&#8221; NOW, how difficult will it be once the practice gets more widespread in the next few years?</p>
<p>That is WHY I say it&#8217;s better off to KILL this UNFAIR practice NOW&#8230;while it&#8217;s in its INFANCY&#8230;BEFORE MORE companies jump on the &#8220;Internet Overcharging&#8221; bandwagon!!</p>
<p>Dean</p>
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		<title>By: JM</title>
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		<dc:creator>JM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 21:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Turbo&quot; anything as I see it is pointless if you are going to be capped anyway.

Continuing to publish good information about this to counter what the broadband providers (aka Internet Capping Providers) are claiming, however, is not - without that, one must accept their &quot;data&quot; which can be used to justify just about anything where there is monopolistic control.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Turbo&#8221; anything as I see it is pointless if you are going to be capped anyway.</p>
<p>Continuing to publish good information about this to counter what the broadband providers (aka Internet Capping Providers) are claiming, however, is not &#8211; without that, one must accept their &#8220;data&#8221; which can be used to justify just about anything where there is monopolistic control.</p>
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		<title>By: The beast that will not die: Metered Billing &#124;</title>
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		<dc:creator>The beast that will not die: Metered Billing &#124;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 21:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Phillip Dampier of Stop The Cap notes, the push began in earnest this week, with a flood of astroturfers and paid policy goofs [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Phillip Dampier of Stop The Cap notes, the push began in earnest this week, with a flood of astroturfers and paid policy goofs [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Smith6612</title>
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		<dc:creator>Smith6612</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 19:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Might I add, if you guys have ever seen me link to FileFront on this site, that&#039;s where I upload many of my files and use it to get game trailers and related content. They can easilly break 20Mbps+ on FiOS and on Roadrunner 99% of the time. But yes, multiple connections does help increase the speed if the bandwidth is there. A lot of servers still have the webmasters capping them at 3-4Mbps of transfer, despite the server having gigabit or even fiber connections going to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Might I add, if you guys have ever seen me link to FileFront on this site, that&#8217;s where I upload many of my files and use it to get game trailers and related content. They can easilly break 20Mbps+ on FiOS and on Roadrunner 99% of the time. But yes, multiple connections does help increase the speed if the bandwidth is there. A lot of servers still have the webmasters capping them at 3-4Mbps of transfer, despite the server having gigabit or even fiber connections going to them.</p>
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		<title>By: BrionS</title>
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		<dc:creator>BrionS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 15:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s why I originally got it, but if you&#039;re not running a server (or two or three) then there&#039;s not much of a reason (aside perhaps from BitTorrent) to have Turbo.  

Plus dropping to Standard is a way of hinting to TWC that their moves against their customer&#039;s interests are not welcomed and they will be punished with less money for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s why I originally got it, but if you&#8217;re not running a server (or two or three) then there&#8217;s not much of a reason (aside perhaps from BitTorrent) to have Turbo.  </p>
<p>Plus dropping to Standard is a way of hinting to TWC that their moves against their customer&#8217;s interests are not welcomed and they will be punished with less money for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Phillip Dampier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phillip Dampier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 14:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Except for upload!  384kbps standard / 1Mbps Turbo.

That&#039;s why I have it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Except for upload!  384kbps standard / 1Mbps Turbo.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why I have it.</p>
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