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	<title>Comments on: Time Warner Cable Ends Cap &#8216;n Tier &#8220;Trial&#8221; in Beaumont</title>
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		<title>By: Phillip Dampier</title>
		<link>http://stopthecap.com/2009/05/13/time-warner-cable-ends-cap-n-tier-trial-in-beaumont/comment-page-1/#comment-4141</link>
		<dc:creator>Phillip Dampier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 18:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The local station removal issue comes from the fact broadcasters have started asking for cash payments from cable systems to carry their signals.  Some stations have been rebuffed by TWC for asking too much, and then the hardball game begins to see who caves first.  The same thing happened in Buffalo with the CBS affiliate WIVB, which also has the number one newscast in the market.  TWC yanked the channel off the system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The local station removal issue comes from the fact broadcasters have started asking for cash payments from cable systems to carry their signals.  Some stations have been rebuffed by TWC for asking too much, and then the hardball game begins to see who caves first.  The same thing happened in Buffalo with the CBS affiliate WIVB, which also has the number one newscast in the market.  TWC yanked the channel off the system.</p>
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		<title>By: Phillip Dampier</title>
		<link>http://stopthecap.com/2009/05/13/time-warner-cable-ends-cap-n-tier-trial-in-beaumont/comment-page-1/#comment-4140</link>
		<dc:creator>Phillip Dampier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 18:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you look at their web page for Road Runner in the Golden Triangle, the usage cap nonsense is gone and has been gone for awhile.  When you requested information, did she make you choose a specific usage plan based on gigabytes consumed?  When we called RR in Beaumont, they told us there was no further usage based testing going on.  CSRs may not be fully clued in on this.

Keep me informed if you get different specific information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you look at their web page for Road Runner in the Golden Triangle, the usage cap nonsense is gone and has been gone for awhile.  When you requested information, did she make you choose a specific usage plan based on gigabytes consumed?  When we called RR in Beaumont, they told us there was no further usage based testing going on.  CSRs may not be fully clued in on this.</p>
<p>Keep me informed if you get different specific information.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 18:44:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The trial is not over just yet.

I went to Time Warner today and asked the lady at the front desk about getting RR back. She said the trial was gonna end but didn&#039;t know when.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The trial is not over just yet.</p>
<p>I went to Time Warner today and asked the lady at the front desk about getting RR back. She said the trial was gonna end but didn&#8217;t know when.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://stopthecap.com/2009/05/13/time-warner-cable-ends-cap-n-tier-trial-in-beaumont/comment-page-1/#comment-3978</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 15:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even without this metered internet nonsense, their reputation here in the Beaumont area wasn&#039;t very high. They attempted to have our local ABC channel taken off and then got angry when the local news station let their viewers know what was going on. 

They did take off the TV Guide channel, and when called and asked about it, they said we could get it back for an extra 4 dollars a month. I know quite a few people who&#039;ve switched to Direct TV. 

I&#039;m sure them ending the trial everywhere is just a way to shut everybody up and hope we forget while the they regroup.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even without this metered internet nonsense, their reputation here in the Beaumont area wasn&#8217;t very high. They attempted to have our local ABC channel taken off and then got angry when the local news station let their viewers know what was going on. </p>
<p>They did take off the TV Guide channel, and when called and asked about it, they said we could get it back for an extra 4 dollars a month. I know quite a few people who&#8217;ve switched to Direct TV. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure them ending the trial everywhere is just a way to shut everybody up and hope we forget while the they regroup.</p>
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		<title>By: preventCAPS</title>
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		<dc:creator>preventCAPS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 18:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, suppose TWC does a nationwide rollout of a revised consumption based billing. How are we to react? Of course, we will be consumers enraged with anger and will vent on blogs like this, call TWC to complain, and a few of us will cancel service immediately. Others will run up overages and call to complain. Just as wireless carriers do now, they will reduce the bill a symbolic amount and warn the consumer not to do it again, and better yet, inform them that they can upgrade their account (and up their monthly bill) to prevent overages. Unfortunately, none of that acheives our common goal of keeping the internet cap free for everyone and preserving net neutrality.

TWC&#039;s language stating that they still believe that consumption based billing is the way to go really scares me. I believe that TWC has always known that this would be a battle but they just didn&#039;t expect such strong resistance and are regrouping and plotting their next move, possibly a nationwide movement. I&#039;m only hopeful that there is a nationwide response at that time and that TWC and all other ISPs realize that caps are not good for business, PR, or anything except a nice money party idea that will never realize funds because they couldn&#039;t brainwash enough consumers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, suppose TWC does a nationwide rollout of a revised consumption based billing. How are we to react? Of course, we will be consumers enraged with anger and will vent on blogs like this, call TWC to complain, and a few of us will cancel service immediately. Others will run up overages and call to complain. Just as wireless carriers do now, they will reduce the bill a symbolic amount and warn the consumer not to do it again, and better yet, inform them that they can upgrade their account (and up their monthly bill) to prevent overages. Unfortunately, none of that acheives our common goal of keeping the internet cap free for everyone and preserving net neutrality.</p>
<p>TWC&#8217;s language stating that they still believe that consumption based billing is the way to go really scares me. I believe that TWC has always known that this would be a battle but they just didn&#8217;t expect such strong resistance and are regrouping and plotting their next move, possibly a nationwide movement. I&#8217;m only hopeful that there is a nationwide response at that time and that TWC and all other ISPs realize that caps are not good for business, PR, or anything except a nice money party idea that will never realize funds because they couldn&#8217;t brainwash enough consumers.</p>
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		<title>By: Lummox JR</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lummox JR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 14:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It wouldn&#039;t surprise me if they thought a nationwide rollout, or a bigger one at least, would hamper out ability to organize since it would slightly dilute the pool of angered users--many of whom are presently not in one of the &quot;trial&quot; areas. I think however it would expand the pool quite enough to make up for that, and instead of a handful of politicians fighting TWC on their constituents&#039; behalf there would soon be hundreds.

They&#039;re probably tightening up their ranks in either event. I think as much as there are a lot of execs at TWC who obviously know this concept is deeply unpopular and correctly seen as the money grab it is, there are probably a few who are genuinely perplexed that there&#039;s this much uproar about it. After all, we never get this enraged over the ridiculous yearly rate hikes. They seem to be quite confused that we&#039;re fighting back on this issue, like the expectation was that anyone who was annoyed by the new policy would just grumble a little bit and move on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It wouldn&#8217;t surprise me if they thought a nationwide rollout, or a bigger one at least, would hamper out ability to organize since it would slightly dilute the pool of angered users&#8211;many of whom are presently not in one of the &#8220;trial&#8221; areas. I think however it would expand the pool quite enough to make up for that, and instead of a handful of politicians fighting TWC on their constituents&#8217; behalf there would soon be hundreds.</p>
<p>They&#8217;re probably tightening up their ranks in either event. I think as much as there are a lot of execs at TWC who obviously know this concept is deeply unpopular and correctly seen as the money grab it is, there are probably a few who are genuinely perplexed that there&#8217;s this much uproar about it. After all, we never get this enraged over the ridiculous yearly rate hikes. They seem to be quite confused that we&#8217;re fighting back on this issue, like the expectation was that anyone who was annoyed by the new policy would just grumble a little bit and move on.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Chaney</title>
		<link>http://stopthecap.com/2009/05/13/time-warner-cable-ends-cap-n-tier-trial-in-beaumont/comment-page-1/#comment-3947</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Chaney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 20:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you hit the nail on the head.  TWC has seen that it&#039;s not just the people directly being affected complaining.  We&#039;re all banding together to help eachother in ALL markets to fight this, and I don&#039;t think they want us all to now unite our focus on Beaumont.  That would just deepen the PR wound.  Instead they&#039;re going to stop all trails, attempt and education campaign, and try again.....maybe with a more synchronized rollout.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you hit the nail on the head.  TWC has seen that it&#8217;s not just the people directly being affected complaining.  We&#8217;re all banding together to help eachother in ALL markets to fight this, and I don&#8217;t think they want us all to now unite our focus on Beaumont.  That would just deepen the PR wound.  Instead they&#8217;re going to stop all trails, attempt and education campaign, and try again&#8230;..maybe with a more synchronized rollout.</p>
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		<title>By: Lummox JR</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lummox JR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 16:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder what this means exactly. TWC has made it crystal clear they intend to go forward with caps as soon as they can, but why backpedal? Were they afraid of others holding up Beaumont as an example of how this policy hurts a community? It seems if they were, they would have done this before now.

About the only reason I can see for TWC to drop the cap in Beaumont would be if they expected the ongoing use of capped broadband there to represent some sort of threat to their future plans. Or to use a warfare analogy, they&#039;re pulling back their advance units in the face of an uncertain response. That response would certainly have to be legislative, which means we have to keep our representatives motivated on this issue. If TWC is hedging their bets against a regulatory blitz that stymies this plan for the future, they must have reason to believe it could happen--so let&#039;s make sure it does. The pressure ought to be on them to adapt to the needs of consumers, not vice-versa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder what this means exactly. TWC has made it crystal clear they intend to go forward with caps as soon as they can, but why backpedal? Were they afraid of others holding up Beaumont as an example of how this policy hurts a community? It seems if they were, they would have done this before now.</p>
<p>About the only reason I can see for TWC to drop the cap in Beaumont would be if they expected the ongoing use of capped broadband there to represent some sort of threat to their future plans. Or to use a warfare analogy, they&#8217;re pulling back their advance units in the face of an uncertain response. That response would certainly have to be legislative, which means we have to keep our representatives motivated on this issue. If TWC is hedging their bets against a regulatory blitz that stymies this plan for the future, they must have reason to believe it could happen&#8211;so let&#8217;s make sure it does. The pressure ought to be on them to adapt to the needs of consumers, not vice-versa.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://stopthecap.com/2009/05/13/time-warner-cable-ends-cap-n-tier-trial-in-beaumont/comment-page-1/#comment-3930</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 09:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I noticed the speeds are slower now. Before I canceled, I was getting 7mbps down and 500kbps up on the 44 dollar a month plan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I noticed the speeds are slower now. Before I canceled, I was getting 7mbps down and 500kbps up on the 44 dollar a month plan.</p>
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		<dc:creator>TWC - Time Warner Ends Cap ‘n Tier &#8220;Trial&#8221; in Beaumont Texas &#124; Meter This!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 02:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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