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		<title>By: Frontier Communications News &#124; Most Popular Searches - webmastereye.net</title>
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		<description>[...] Stop the Cap! » Blog Archive » Frontier Communications Cat Claws CableFrontier Communications has continued its aggressive campaign to hit back against its cable competition, most notably Time Warner Cable. In its most recent advertising in the Rochester area, Frontier compared Time Warner Cable&#8217;s &#8230;Read more [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Stop the Cap! » Blog Archive » Frontier Communications Cat Claws CableFrontier Communications has continued its aggressive campaign to hit back against its cable competition, most notably Time Warner Cable. In its most recent advertising in the Rochester area, Frontier compared Time Warner Cable&#8217;s &#8230;Read more [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Phillip Dampier</title>
		<link>http://stopthecap.com/2009/05/12/frontier-communications-cat-claws-cable/comment-page-1/#comment-4145</link>
		<dc:creator>Phillip Dampier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 19:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When we had Frontier DSL back in 2003-2004, they didn&#039;t charge a rental on the modem we were provided then (I think it was a Motorola).  I think the modem rental fee was one of those marketing tricks that came later to pad profits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When we had Frontier DSL back in 2003-2004, they didn&#8217;t charge a rental on the modem we were provided then (I think it was a Motorola).  I think the modem rental fee was one of those marketing tricks that came later to pad profits.</p>
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		<title>By: Phillip Dampier</title>
		<link>http://stopthecap.com/2009/05/12/frontier-communications-cat-claws-cable/comment-page-1/#comment-4144</link>
		<dc:creator>Phillip Dampier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 19:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can find these things, typically used, from eBay for less than $30.  They are routinely coming from Telus in Alberta, where evidently you own them after your term contract is up with them.  I am also not aware of a definitive answer allowing you to bring your own modem to the account and returning theirs.  The monthly rental was up to $6 for some Frontier accounts, which is outrageous.

The Speedstream, which bundles a wireless router, was underwhelming in performance for me in the latter capacity.  My Linksys sitting next to it kicked butt in signal strength and holding the connection.  I also found the configuration information to be underwhelming, particularly with no support for WPA security, only the now easily-broken WEP.  In a Cap &#039;n Tier environment, that could spell trouble if the neighbors want to hop on your connection.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can find these things, typically used, from eBay for less than $30.  They are routinely coming from Telus in Alberta, where evidently you own them after your term contract is up with them.  I am also not aware of a definitive answer allowing you to bring your own modem to the account and returning theirs.  The monthly rental was up to $6 for some Frontier accounts, which is outrageous.</p>
<p>The Speedstream, which bundles a wireless router, was underwhelming in performance for me in the latter capacity.  My Linksys sitting next to it kicked butt in signal strength and holding the connection.  I also found the configuration information to be underwhelming, particularly with no support for WPA security, only the now easily-broken WEP.  In a Cap &#8216;n Tier environment, that could spell trouble if the neighbors want to hop on your connection.</p>
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		<title>By: Phillip Dampier</title>
		<link>http://stopthecap.com/2009/05/12/frontier-communications-cat-claws-cable/comment-page-1/#comment-4143</link>
		<dc:creator>Phillip Dampier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 19:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the key word is SOME.  It&#039;s not a choice for me in Brighton, at least based on my location on the far edge from the Field Street exchange.  I really think they need to do better in a city like Rochester, although for a rural community with absolutely no broadband, at least this would be a start.

I also think the company is over-reliant on tricks and traps, and I suspect nobody plays devil&#039;s advocate over there, contemplating how the cable operator will hit back.  And Time Warner Cable does hit back hard, and quite effectively.

If I were them, I&#039;d dispense with at least half the fine print.  I don&#039;t object to the concept of price protection/contract agreements, but once in one, the nickle and diming should stop.  A $45 shipping/handling fee for the netbook is unnecessary.  The add-on &quot;feature packs&quot; for calling features and ancillary add-ons should be done away with and simply bundled in.  Their wi-fi add-on, which is now included for free for what might be the length of the term (although I have seen contrary language suggesting it&#039;s good for only the first year) was a good step.

I wallow in fine print and am prone to reading this stuff - like those credit card agreements they send.  If I am confused by it, most people are way in over their heads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the key word is SOME.  It&#8217;s not a choice for me in Brighton, at least based on my location on the far edge from the Field Street exchange.  I really think they need to do better in a city like Rochester, although for a rural community with absolutely no broadband, at least this would be a start.</p>
<p>I also think the company is over-reliant on tricks and traps, and I suspect nobody plays devil&#8217;s advocate over there, contemplating how the cable operator will hit back.  And Time Warner Cable does hit back hard, and quite effectively.</p>
<p>If I were them, I&#8217;d dispense with at least half the fine print.  I don&#8217;t object to the concept of price protection/contract agreements, but once in one, the nickle and diming should stop.  A $45 shipping/handling fee for the netbook is unnecessary.  The add-on &#8220;feature packs&#8221; for calling features and ancillary add-ons should be done away with and simply bundled in.  Their wi-fi add-on, which is now included for free for what might be the length of the term (although I have seen contrary language suggesting it&#8217;s good for only the first year) was a good step.</p>
<p>I wallow in fine print and am prone to reading this stuff &#8211; like those credit card agreements they send.  If I am confused by it, most people are way in over their heads.</p>
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		<title>By: Phillip Dampier</title>
		<link>http://stopthecap.com/2009/05/12/frontier-communications-cat-claws-cable/comment-page-1/#comment-4142</link>
		<dc:creator>Phillip Dampier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 19:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;cap&quot; is not enforced Hal.  Frontier has been our phone company here in Rochester since before there was a Citizens/Frontier (they bought our local phone company Rochester Telephone, which renamed itself Frontier, and they in turned felt that name was better than their own).  Rochester is the hotbed for keeping an eye on this company, and we intend to do exactly that.  When they are naughty, we spank them.  When they do the right thing, we applaud them.

I am very wary about the Verizon selloff to Frontier personally.  It creates a company that dwarfs the existing Frontier, and I fear they have bitten off more than they can chew.  We could end up with something akin to FairPoint Communications, which is exactly why I am covering that issue in exhaustive detail here.  I want everything on the record so consumer advocates can make sure they press Frontier up front on these exact issues BEFORE the deal is approved.

As people are going to learn as the week progresses, FairPoint has become a major nightmare.

I also personally believe Frontier can mean well, but they are not spending nearly enough on their network to keep up with the times and provide a level of service that is going to become commonplace in the next five years.  Offering 3-7Mbps broadband isn&#039;t going to cut it by 2015.

Stay tuned and thanks for reading!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;cap&#8221; is not enforced Hal.  Frontier has been our phone company here in Rochester since before there was a Citizens/Frontier (they bought our local phone company Rochester Telephone, which renamed itself Frontier, and they in turned felt that name was better than their own).  Rochester is the hotbed for keeping an eye on this company, and we intend to do exactly that.  When they are naughty, we spank them.  When they do the right thing, we applaud them.</p>
<p>I am very wary about the Verizon selloff to Frontier personally.  It creates a company that dwarfs the existing Frontier, and I fear they have bitten off more than they can chew.  We could end up with something akin to FairPoint Communications, which is exactly why I am covering that issue in exhaustive detail here.  I want everything on the record so consumer advocates can make sure they press Frontier up front on these exact issues BEFORE the deal is approved.</p>
<p>As people are going to learn as the week progresses, FairPoint has become a major nightmare.</p>
<p>I also personally believe Frontier can mean well, but they are not spending nearly enough on their network to keep up with the times and provide a level of service that is going to become commonplace in the next five years.  Offering 3-7Mbps broadband isn&#8217;t going to cut it by 2015.</p>
<p>Stay tuned and thanks for reading!</p>
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		<title>By: Mazakman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mazakman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 22:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good question JJ. I also fail to see why this modem fee gets charged after the modem itself for sure has been paid for many times over. Well one thing is for sure, Frontier benefits financially. 

I have seen Speedstream modems on Craigslist, etc for cheap.  But I would say call Frontier and see what they say. I am pretty sure that my dad has no monthly modem charge on his Frontier bill and he has been with Frontier for a long time. In fact, I know for sure that he doesn&#039;t because he had told them recently that he was leaving for Time Warner unless something was done about his bill. And as far as I know, they complied.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good question JJ. I also fail to see why this modem fee gets charged after the modem itself for sure has been paid for many times over. Well one thing is for sure, Frontier benefits financially. </p>
<p>I have seen Speedstream modems on Craigslist, etc for cheap.  But I would say call Frontier and see what they say. I am pretty sure that my dad has no monthly modem charge on his Frontier bill and he has been with Frontier for a long time. In fact, I know for sure that he doesn&#8217;t because he had told them recently that he was leaving for Time Warner unless something was done about his bill. And as far as I know, they complied.</p>
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		<title>By: JJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>JJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 21:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve had Frontier DSL for several years.  I&#039;m now on a fixed income.  I could purchase my own Speedstream and return Frontier&#039;s if they would waive the monthly fee upon its return.  Do you think they would do that?  Or, because I didn&#039;t have my own Speedstream from the start like you, will they insist on continuing to charge me for it?  I&#039;m sure it&#039;s been paid for many times over by now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had Frontier DSL for several years.  I&#8217;m now on a fixed income.  I could purchase my own Speedstream and return Frontier&#8217;s if they would waive the monthly fee upon its return.  Do you think they would do that?  Or, because I didn&#8217;t have my own Speedstream from the start like you, will they insist on continuing to charge me for it?  I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s been paid for many times over by now.</p>
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		<title>By: Mazakman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mazakman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 20:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After one week with Frontier DSL Max, I am a happy camper. 

A short review....

Installed 5/14. Initially saw speedtest results ranging from the high 5&#039;s to 6.4 mb/sec.range.  And upload was about 370-380 kb/sec. Tracerts and pings yielded good results with no latency issues at all. 

My upload speed was raised by Frontier last Friday to 1 mb/sec cap. Also on Friday my monthly $4.50 modem fee was waived because I have my own dsl modem here. 

I e-mailed one of their senior techs Sunday night who I had contact with last year. I received an immediate reply Monday morning. He welcomed me back as a Frontier customer. My issue had to do with download speed and if I was set at the right levels here. As a result of this my download speed was raised so that now download speedtests yield results as high as 6.9 mb/sec. I was told to keep an eye on things and to let him know immediately if I see any adverse things going on. I haven&#039;t. Apparently there is a limit as to how high they dare raise my speed and if any instability occurs. Tracerts and pings remain very good. 

http://www.speedtest.net/result/479472870.png

Another feature of this standalone DSL max is that I can receive inbound calls on the phone number that is assigned to my account. So in addition to using MagicJack with a Batavia, NY exchange ( I live in Webster, NY and MagicJack has no other greater Rochester numbers available) , I also have the added benefit of local friends and family who have regular phone plans being able to call me at home with no fear of any long distance charges. ( of course, we also use cells ) 

To sum up... for SOME Roadrunner customers in this area, there is indeed an alternative. And the customers that I am talking about are the ones like myself who live within a good range of the CO&#039;s and DSLAMS like I do. I will be the first to let the kind people at this great website know if my Frontier experience changes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After one week with Frontier DSL Max, I am a happy camper. </p>
<p>A short review&#8230;.</p>
<p>Installed 5/14. Initially saw speedtest results ranging from the high 5&#8242;s to 6.4 mb/sec.range.  And upload was about 370-380 kb/sec. Tracerts and pings yielded good results with no latency issues at all. </p>
<p>My upload speed was raised by Frontier last Friday to 1 mb/sec cap. Also on Friday my monthly $4.50 modem fee was waived because I have my own dsl modem here. </p>
<p>I e-mailed one of their senior techs Sunday night who I had contact with last year. I received an immediate reply Monday morning. He welcomed me back as a Frontier customer. My issue had to do with download speed and if I was set at the right levels here. As a result of this my download speed was raised so that now download speedtests yield results as high as 6.9 mb/sec. I was told to keep an eye on things and to let him know immediately if I see any adverse things going on. I haven&#8217;t. Apparently there is a limit as to how high they dare raise my speed and if any instability occurs. Tracerts and pings remain very good. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.speedtest.net/result/479472870.png" rel="nofollow">http://www.speedtest.net/result/479472870.png</a></p>
<p>Another feature of this standalone DSL max is that I can receive inbound calls on the phone number that is assigned to my account. So in addition to using MagicJack with a Batavia, NY exchange ( I live in Webster, NY and MagicJack has no other greater Rochester numbers available) , I also have the added benefit of local friends and family who have regular phone plans being able to call me at home with no fear of any long distance charges. ( of course, we also use cells ) </p>
<p>To sum up&#8230; for SOME Roadrunner customers in this area, there is indeed an alternative. And the customers that I am talking about are the ones like myself who live within a good range of the CO&#8217;s and DSLAMS like I do. I will be the first to let the kind people at this great website know if my Frontier experience changes.</p>
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		<title>By: Mazakman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mazakman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 00:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You shall be the first to know if Frontier turns us off Tim. Meanwhile, I am pleased both with it&#039;s performance and with all of the dealings that I have had with the folks at Frontier. A tech even showed up unexpectedly at my home today to follow up on one issue. Hell of a nice guy too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You shall be the first to know if Frontier turns us off Tim. Meanwhile, I am pleased both with it&#8217;s performance and with all of the dealings that I have had with the folks at Frontier. A tech even showed up unexpectedly at my home today to follow up on one issue. Hell of a nice guy too.</p>
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		<title>By: Hal Jordan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hal Jordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 16:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frontier just bought out my internet from Verizon.

Costs more.
A lousy 5GIG up AND down cap.

Costs more than COMCAST!

I see comcast in my future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frontier just bought out my internet from Verizon.</p>
<p>Costs more.<br />
A lousy 5GIG up AND down cap.</p>
<p>Costs more than COMCAST!</p>
<p>I see comcast in my future.</p>
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