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	<title>Comments on: The War is Back On &#8211; You Can&#8217;t Snow Someone from Western NY &#8211; We Know a Blizzard of Bull When We See One</title>
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		<title>By: Media Channel 2.0 &#8212; Blog &#8212; Metering: The End of The Internet As You Know It</title>
		<link>http://stopthecap.com/2009/04/17/the-war-is-back-on-you-cant-snow-someone-from-western-ny-we-know-a-blizzard-of-bull-when-we-see-one/comment-page-1/#comment-7132</link>
		<dc:creator>Media Channel 2.0 &#8212; Blog &#8212; Metering: The End of The Internet As You Know It</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 21:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Phillip Dampier, who runs the Web site StoptheCap.com, put it: &#8220;[The cable companies] still think they&#8217;re right: the problem isn&#8217;t draconian [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Phillip Dampier, who runs the Web site StoptheCap.com, put it: &#8220;[The cable companies] still think they&#8217;re right: the problem isn&#8217;t draconian [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Why Metering Is The End of The Internet As You Know It &#124; Reading01867.com</title>
		<link>http://stopthecap.com/2009/04/17/the-war-is-back-on-you-cant-snow-someone-from-western-ny-we-know-a-blizzard-of-bull-when-we-see-one/comment-page-1/#comment-3686</link>
		<dc:creator>Why Metering Is The End of The Internet As You Know It &#124; Reading01867.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 04:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Phillip Dampier, who runs the Web site StoptheCap.com, put it: &#8220;[The cable companies] still think they&#8217;re right: the problem isn&#8217;t draconian [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Phillip Dampier, who runs the Web site StoptheCap.com, put it: &#8220;[The cable companies] still think they&#8217;re right: the problem isn&#8217;t draconian [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://stopthecap.com/2009/04/17/the-war-is-back-on-you-cant-snow-someone-from-western-ny-we-know-a-blizzard-of-bull-when-we-see-one/comment-page-1/#comment-2852</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 20:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wish I had an alternate Broadband ISP in my area. I also wish I had the funds to start my own Broadband ISP. 
TWC may bring their cap at a later date. I certainly will not pay for it, alternate ISP or not. It is a matter of principle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wish I had an alternate Broadband ISP in my area. I also wish I had the funds to start my own Broadband ISP.<br />
TWC may bring their cap at a later date. I certainly will not pay for it, alternate ISP or not. It is a matter of principle.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Dafoe</title>
		<link>http://stopthecap.com/2009/04/17/the-war-is-back-on-you-cant-snow-someone-from-western-ny-we-know-a-blizzard-of-bull-when-we-see-one/comment-page-1/#comment-2425</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Dafoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 02:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree.  They are acting like that there is currently no plans that are less money for people who use the internet less, when in fact, they do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree.  They are acting like that there is currently no plans that are less money for people who use the internet less, when in fact, they do.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry</title>
		<link>http://stopthecap.com/2009/04/17/the-war-is-back-on-you-cant-snow-someone-from-western-ny-we-know-a-blizzard-of-bull-when-we-see-one/comment-page-1/#comment-2390</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 15:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I went to their site and went through the process of setting up service and only option they give you is the standard with or without cable TV or digital phone service, no mention of RR Lite or Turbo. 

This is something we should make people aware of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went to their site and went through the process of setting up service and only option they give you is the standard with or without cable TV or digital phone service, no mention of RR Lite or Turbo. </p>
<p>This is something we should make people aware of.</p>
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		<title>By: AC</title>
		<link>http://stopthecap.com/2009/04/17/the-war-is-back-on-you-cant-snow-someone-from-western-ny-we-know-a-blizzard-of-bull-when-we-see-one/comment-page-1/#comment-2387</link>
		<dc:creator>AC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 14:50:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually TW/Rochester has 4 tiers already, that they almost never advertise nor mention.  Lite/Basic/Standard/Turbo in ascending order of speed-&gt;price, of course.  All the lighter users complaining about the heavy users, YOU ALREADY HAVE a less expensive option!  Use it if you think you&#039;re paying too much, don&#039;t let TW make the decision FOR you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually TW/Rochester has 4 tiers already, that they almost never advertise nor mention.  Lite/Basic/Standard/Turbo in ascending order of speed-&gt;price, of course.  All the lighter users complaining about the heavy users, YOU ALREADY HAVE a less expensive option!  Use it if you think you&#8217;re paying too much, don&#8217;t let TW make the decision FOR you!</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Dafoe</title>
		<link>http://stopthecap.com/2009/04/17/the-war-is-back-on-you-cant-snow-someone-from-western-ny-we-know-a-blizzard-of-bull-when-we-see-one/comment-page-1/#comment-2386</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Dafoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 14:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree.  My original letter to the Ogden Supervisor pointed that out.  There is a $30, $40, and $50 tier already.  If TW is not selling the $30 tier to lite internet users, they they are theones making people pay more than they need.

For a test, I had a friend call up (he has DSL) TW and all they talked about was the middle tier.  No mention of lite, or turbo.  Finally, he had to ask them if there were any less expensive plans to find out about the lite service.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree.  My original letter to the Ogden Supervisor pointed that out.  There is a $30, $40, and $50 tier already.  If TW is not selling the $30 tier to lite internet users, they they are theones making people pay more than they need.</p>
<p>For a test, I had a friend call up (he has DSL) TW and all they talked about was the middle tier.  No mention of lite, or turbo.  Finally, he had to ask them if there were any less expensive plans to find out about the lite service.</p>
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		<title>By: Fedup1963</title>
		<link>http://stopthecap.com/2009/04/17/the-war-is-back-on-you-cant-snow-someone-from-western-ny-we-know-a-blizzard-of-bull-when-we-see-one/comment-page-1/#comment-2383</link>
		<dc:creator>Fedup1963</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 12:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The replies coming from the news outlets and officials do seem to always end on TWC&#039;s side. This is exactly why we cannot give up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The replies coming from the news outlets and officials do seem to always end on TWC&#8217;s side. This is exactly why we cannot give up.</p>
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		<title>By: Fedup1963</title>
		<link>http://stopthecap.com/2009/04/17/the-war-is-back-on-you-cant-snow-someone-from-western-ny-we-know-a-blizzard-of-bull-when-we-see-one/comment-page-1/#comment-2382</link>
		<dc:creator>Fedup1963</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 12:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was possibly the shortest victory celebration I have ever been a part of. While I was temporarily blind and thought Time Warner Cable had finally come to their senses, that little voice in the back of my head started clamoring to be heard. Somehow I knew it was just a smoke screen and sure enough after an hour the TWC Official Statement was released. I should have followed my instinct&#039;s not to read it but I did. Let me just say it made me angry all over again. In the neighborhood I live in we have no other choice for Internet Broadband. I cannot even subscribe to DSL because Frontier&#039;s lines are so bad. Verizon Fios is not available here and neither is Comcast. Back to the grassroots drawing board to try and terminate this Monopoly&#039;s plan for good! 

For some reason Time Warner Cable believes that their customers are somehow uneducated. I like many disagree strongly. I am not tech savvy and do not claim to be but I can smell a rat and this is a big one. I do know I have read that Alex Dudley of TWC has said that if customers complain about it and do not want it then they will not do it. Call me stupid but I believe that the negative feedback we in Rochester, NY have provided them over the last two weeks, along with a few government officials backing us, should drive the point home that we Do Not Want It! 

What I find most interesting about the news reports is the lack of critical information on how this impacts users on a &quot;real&quot; level. The highlight always seems to focus on us paying more. We will grant you, but it will impact so many people for different reasons. How about focusing on the impact this will have on the Deaf community, Farmers, Doctors, Students, E Commerce, Online Education etc. Time Warner Cable Reps have called us Bandwidth Hogs, Freetards, Gamers, Netflixers and Bloggers that live in the basement eating Cheeto&#039;s. I for one am tired of it. The average user that they refer to are those that have subscribed to their &quot;Lite&quot; product and not those that subscribe to the &quot;unlimited&quot; service. What gives?

TWC likes to say that most people won&#039;t even notice. Are you kidding me? I did not Volunteer for this little test project and I was not asked if I would like to. I did not receive a written notice from TWC about this little test project or that I would be given this little &quot;Tool&quot; they keep talking about but have still not released. I just have to go along with it because they say so. Not so fast! I actually used my Twitter to ask good ole Alex Dudley from TWC just when these little &quot;tools&quot; will be imposed on us and how could we verify that they are Accurate? Mr. Dudley ducked the latter part of the question but simply said this, &quot;As soon as possible...not sure how it&#039;s an imposition...use it or don&#039;t...your choice.&quot; Gee Alex, thanks. Who needs educating now?

Call it what you want, it was clearly a statement to hush the masses while they re-group for another attack. 

To Time Warner Cable, I vote NO on your Tier Pricing Plan!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was possibly the shortest victory celebration I have ever been a part of. While I was temporarily blind and thought Time Warner Cable had finally come to their senses, that little voice in the back of my head started clamoring to be heard. Somehow I knew it was just a smoke screen and sure enough after an hour the TWC Official Statement was released. I should have followed my instinct&#8217;s not to read it but I did. Let me just say it made me angry all over again. In the neighborhood I live in we have no other choice for Internet Broadband. I cannot even subscribe to DSL because Frontier&#8217;s lines are so bad. Verizon Fios is not available here and neither is Comcast. Back to the grassroots drawing board to try and terminate this Monopoly&#8217;s plan for good! </p>
<p>For some reason Time Warner Cable believes that their customers are somehow uneducated. I like many disagree strongly. I am not tech savvy and do not claim to be but I can smell a rat and this is a big one. I do know I have read that Alex Dudley of TWC has said that if customers complain about it and do not want it then they will not do it. Call me stupid but I believe that the negative feedback we in Rochester, NY have provided them over the last two weeks, along with a few government officials backing us, should drive the point home that we Do Not Want It! </p>
<p>What I find most interesting about the news reports is the lack of critical information on how this impacts users on a &#8220;real&#8221; level. The highlight always seems to focus on us paying more. We will grant you, but it will impact so many people for different reasons. How about focusing on the impact this will have on the Deaf community, Farmers, Doctors, Students, E Commerce, Online Education etc. Time Warner Cable Reps have called us Bandwidth Hogs, Freetards, Gamers, Netflixers and Bloggers that live in the basement eating Cheeto&#8217;s. I for one am tired of it. The average user that they refer to are those that have subscribed to their &#8220;Lite&#8221; product and not those that subscribe to the &#8220;unlimited&#8221; service. What gives?</p>
<p>TWC likes to say that most people won&#8217;t even notice. Are you kidding me? I did not Volunteer for this little test project and I was not asked if I would like to. I did not receive a written notice from TWC about this little test project or that I would be given this little &#8220;Tool&#8221; they keep talking about but have still not released. I just have to go along with it because they say so. Not so fast! I actually used my Twitter to ask good ole Alex Dudley from TWC just when these little &#8220;tools&#8221; will be imposed on us and how could we verify that they are Accurate? Mr. Dudley ducked the latter part of the question but simply said this, &#8220;As soon as possible&#8230;not sure how it&#8217;s an imposition&#8230;use it or don&#8217;t&#8230;your choice.&#8221; Gee Alex, thanks. Who needs educating now?</p>
<p>Call it what you want, it was clearly a statement to hush the masses while they re-group for another attack. </p>
<p>To Time Warner Cable, I vote NO on your Tier Pricing Plan!</p>
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		<title>By: Larry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 04:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“Those who use it very little should not pay as much as those who use it a lot.”

They seem to forget that&#039;s what they have road runner lite for, they act like they don&#039;t have that tier. I think we need to educate TW and remind them that they have RR lite and the people who don&#039;t know it exists. 

The reps who answer the phone should ask the person what they are going to be doing on the net and offer them the right service for their usage. If it&#039;s just browsing and email, they should offer RR lite instead of trying to sell them on the standard service.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Those who use it very little should not pay as much as those who use it a lot.”</p>
<p>They seem to forget that&#8217;s what they have road runner lite for, they act like they don&#8217;t have that tier. I think we need to educate TW and remind them that they have RR lite and the people who don&#8217;t know it exists. </p>
<p>The reps who answer the phone should ask the person what they are going to be doing on the net and offer them the right service for their usage. If it&#8217;s just browsing and email, they should offer RR lite instead of trying to sell them on the standard service.</p>
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