Comments on: Why Is Time Warner Saying “Costs Increasing” to Consumers, But “Decreasing” to Stockholders? http://stopthecap.com/2009/04/10/why-is-time-warner-saying-costs-increasing-to-consumers-but-decreasing-to-stockholders/ Promoting Better Broadband, Fighting Data Caps, Usage-Based Billing, & Other Internet Overcharging Schemes Wed, 23 May 2012 08:19:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Stop the Cap! » Blog Archive » Debating the Heartland Institute: The Best Evidence Why Net Neutrality Is Critically Important http://stopthecap.com/2009/04/10/why-is-time-warner-saying-costs-increasing-to-consumers-but-decreasing-to-stockholders/#comment-5735 Stop the Cap! » Blog Archive » Debating the Heartland Institute: The Best Evidence Why Net Neutrality Is Critically Important Wed, 12 Aug 2009 17:51:46 +0000 http://stopthecap.com/?p=827#comment-5735 [...] here.  Lakely should take his free market crash course to companies like Time Warner Cable who are doing exactly what he proclaims makes no sense:  Broadband customers up.  Demand for bandwidth up.  Investment to upgrade networks to handle [...] [...] here.  Lakely should take his free market crash course to companies like Time Warner Cable who are doing exactly what he proclaims makes no sense:  Broadband customers up.  Demand for bandwidth up.  Investment to upgrade networks to handle [...]

]]> By: A Call to Action! - FCC Broadband Plan | mobilejones http://stopthecap.com/2009/04/10/why-is-time-warner-saying-costs-increasing-to-consumers-but-decreasing-to-stockholders/#comment-3146 A Call to Action! - FCC Broadband Plan | mobilejones Mon, 27 Apr 2009 06:47:57 +0000 http://stopthecap.com/?p=827#comment-3146 [...] how consumer needs can be at cross purposes to the profit goals of broadband providers. As noted in TWC SEC filing, their goal was to move their customers up the usage pricing tiers quickly, but what effect does [...] [...] how consumer needs can be at cross purposes to the profit goals of broadband providers. As noted in TWC SEC filing, their goal was to move their customers up the usage pricing tiers quickly, but what effect does [...]

]]> By: Earl Cooley III http://stopthecap.com/2009/04/10/why-is-time-warner-saying-costs-increasing-to-consumers-but-decreasing-to-stockholders/#comment-1726 Earl Cooley III Mon, 13 Apr 2009 18:08:25 +0000 http://stopthecap.com/?p=827#comment-1726 It’s very possible a DOCSIS 3.0 upgrade in the US costs on the magnitude of 10x what it really should cost so that TWC can conceal ludicrous profits that rationalize grotesque payouts to executives, resulting in economic sabotage at the local level that should instead result in criminal prosecutions. It’s very possible a DOCSIS 3.0 upgrade in the US costs on the magnitude of 10x what it really should cost so that TWC can conceal ludicrous profits that rationalize grotesque payouts to executives, resulting in economic sabotage at the local level that should instead result in criminal prosecutions.

]]> By: TravisO http://stopthecap.com/2009/04/10/why-is-time-warner-saying-costs-increasing-to-consumers-but-decreasing-to-stockholders/#comment-1725 TravisO Mon, 13 Apr 2009 17:12:46 +0000 http://stopthecap.com/?p=827#comment-1725 >> 160-megabit-per-second service offered by J:Com... how much .. to upgrade its network ... $20 per home passed. Lets be fair now, in Time Warner's defense, the US is nowhere near as populated as Japan is, we're talking on an order of 10x less populated per square mile. In fact I looked up the info so in my city (Syracuse, NY) People per sq mile: 5,871 (Syracuse NY) New York state as a whole: 401 Japan as a whole: 875 I couldn't get reliable figures on a specific city in Japan but atleast as a whole, upgrading New York would give 1/2 the profit per square mile and that's still ignoring the size of NY, so the problem is two fold, half the profit per mile and more miles. It's very possible a DOCSIS 3.0 upgrade in the US costs on the magnitude of 10x what it did it Japan. I don't support the rate increase, I'm a techie and work from home so using the Internet is a requirement of my job, otherwise I'd have to commute 2 hours total per day. Because I use video streaming, which is becomming highly popular, TW's excessive low caps are simply not acceptable. 5yrs ago 40GB might have seemed possible, but today I could chew that up quickly just between my daily work usage, email, basic surfing, video game playing and LEGAL video streaming. PS: I don't drink the Koolaid, I'm a happy customer that's NOT using Time Warner as Verizon's FiOS offers much better speed, price and latency. >> 160-megabit-per-second service offered by J:Com… how much .. to upgrade its network … $20 per home passed.

Lets be fair now, in Time Warner’s defense, the US is nowhere near as populated as Japan is, we’re talking on an order of 10x less populated per square mile. In fact I looked up the info so in my city (Syracuse, NY)

People per sq mile: 5,871 (Syracuse NY)

New York state as a whole: 401
Japan as a whole: 875

I couldn’t get reliable figures on a specific city in Japan but atleast as a whole, upgrading New York would give 1/2 the profit per square mile and that’s still ignoring the size of NY, so the problem is two fold, half the profit per mile and more miles.

It’s very possible a DOCSIS 3.0 upgrade in the US costs on the magnitude of 10x what it did it Japan. I don’t support the rate increase, I’m a techie and work from home so using the Internet is a requirement of my job, otherwise I’d have to commute 2 hours total per day. Because I use video streaming, which is becomming highly popular, TW’s excessive low caps are simply not acceptable. 5yrs ago 40GB might have seemed possible, but today I could chew that up quickly just between my daily work usage, email, basic surfing, video game playing and LEGAL video streaming.

PS: I don’t drink the Koolaid, I’m a happy customer that’s NOT using Time Warner as Verizon’s FiOS offers much better speed, price and latency.

]]> By: Chris http://stopthecap.com/2009/04/10/why-is-time-warner-saying-costs-increasing-to-consumers-but-decreasing-to-stockholders/#comment-1713 Chris Mon, 13 Apr 2009 14:14:51 +0000 http://stopthecap.com/?p=827#comment-1713 You are talking about pipe usage, not bucket usage, right now all those prices have an unlimited sized bucket. Imagine if on top of the $35 6 meg plan, which is about half as much as the comparable cable plan, they also limited your bucket to 30G a month, and increased your price to $50. That would be comparable. You are talking about pipe usage, not bucket usage, right now all those prices have an unlimited sized bucket.

Imagine if on top of the $35 6 meg plan, which is about half as much as the comparable cable plan, they also limited your bucket to 30G a month, and increased your price to $50. That would be comparable.

]]> By: Mike http://stopthecap.com/2009/04/10/why-is-time-warner-saying-costs-increasing-to-consumers-but-decreasing-to-stockholders/#comment-1662 Mike Sat, 11 Apr 2009 23:56:13 +0000 http://stopthecap.com/?p=827#comment-1662 These people should all be fired for the piss-poor job they've done in lying, deceiving, and trying to cheat us. Damn it TWC... get some people who actually make me wonder if they're lying or telling the truth to me. Especially Melissa Buscher and Landel Hobbs: they are the most incompetent wannabe spinmeisters I've seen in a long while. More like the last spokesperson for the Iraqi army ("the American soldiers are committing suicide en masse at the city gates!!!!!!!"). Go die you stupid imbeciles. Burn in hell. These people should all be fired for the piss-poor job they’ve done in lying, deceiving, and trying to cheat us. Damn it TWC… get some people who actually make me wonder if they’re lying or telling the truth to me. Especially Melissa Buscher and Landel Hobbs: they are the most incompetent wannabe spinmeisters I’ve seen in a long while. More like the last spokesperson for the Iraqi army (“the American soldiers are committing suicide en masse at the city gates!!!!!!!”). Go die you stupid imbeciles. Burn in hell.

]]> By: ScottyDog http://stopthecap.com/2009/04/10/why-is-time-warner-saying-costs-increasing-to-consumers-but-decreasing-to-stockholders/#comment-1615 ScottyDog Sat, 11 Apr 2009 03:34:07 +0000 http://stopthecap.com/?p=827#comment-1615 TWC is an Illegal Monopoly and should be broken up like the phone companies. They not only are allowed to have monopoly Status by the Government, now they want to abuse the privilege by gouging its Cable and Internet customers. It is time for a DOJ Investigation into anti trust violations that have gone on for too long at Time Warner. They are in violation of Sherman anti trust laws as well as the Clayton Act. MCA was forced into breaking up in 1962 for doing the same things that TWC is doing to its customers. The legal term is that they are "vertically integrated" and control the business with no effective competition. TWC is an Illegal Monopoly and should be broken up like the phone companies. They not only are allowed to have monopoly Status by the Government, now they want to abuse the privilege by gouging its Cable and Internet customers. It is time for a DOJ Investigation into anti trust violations that have gone on for too long at Time Warner.
They are in violation of Sherman anti trust laws as well as the Clayton Act.
MCA was forced into breaking up in 1962 for doing the same things that TWC is doing to its customers.
The legal term is that they are “vertically integrated” and control the business with no effective competition.

]]> By: Pete http://stopthecap.com/2009/04/10/why-is-time-warner-saying-costs-increasing-to-consumers-but-decreasing-to-stockholders/#comment-1609 Pete Sat, 11 Apr 2009 02:56:23 +0000 http://stopthecap.com/?p=827#comment-1609 Phillip, thanks for doing this research. This 10-k filing is quite damming. I was angry about this cap when I first learned of it, but now after seeing how TWC tells shareholders that costs are going down and then tells customers the exact opposite I'm really disgusted. TWC has some serious ethical problems. I don't see how they can refute their SEC 10k filing. I'm interested to see how they attempt to dig out of this hole. I dropped my TWC cable TV service last September in response to their ever increasing rates. Apparently that wasn't enough, now they are out to bleed their internet access customers as well. Phillip, thanks for doing this research. This 10-k filing is quite damming. I was angry about this cap when I first learned of it, but now after seeing how TWC tells shareholders that costs are going down and then tells customers the exact opposite I’m really disgusted. TWC has some serious ethical problems. I don’t see how they can refute their SEC 10k filing. I’m interested to see how they attempt to dig out of this hole.

I dropped my TWC cable TV service last September in response to their ever increasing rates. Apparently that wasn’t enough, now they are out to bleed their internet access customers as well.

]]> By: Phillip Dampier http://stopthecap.com/2009/04/10/why-is-time-warner-saying-costs-increasing-to-consumers-but-decreasing-to-stockholders/#comment-1579 Phillip Dampier Fri, 10 Apr 2009 20:19:53 +0000 http://stopthecap.com/?p=827#comment-1579 We have heard back from Verizon definitively that they will not intrude on another wireline carrier's territory (Frontier). FIOS will simply not be an option for Rochester unless: 1) Verizon buys a portion of Frontier. 2) Frontier tries a cooperative marketing agreement with Verizon. 3) Verizon changes their mind on the corporate level. I would not hold my breath for any of these things to happen. We have heard back from Verizon definitively that they will not intrude on another wireline carrier’s territory (Frontier). FIOS will simply not be an option for Rochester unless:

1) Verizon buys a portion of Frontier.
2) Frontier tries a cooperative marketing agreement with Verizon.
3) Verizon changes their mind on the corporate level.

I would not hold my breath for any of these things to happen.

]]> By: Phillip Dampier http://stopthecap.com/2009/04/10/why-is-time-warner-saying-costs-increasing-to-consumers-but-decreasing-to-stockholders/#comment-1578 Phillip Dampier Fri, 10 Apr 2009 20:17:13 +0000 http://stopthecap.com/?p=827#comment-1578 Yes, but this spin off has happened only recently. I think the TW reference, at least with respect to this site, is a common abbreviation for Time Warner the cable company, not the corporation. TWC will mean "The Weather Channel" for a lot of people. Yes, but this spin off has happened only recently. I think the TW reference, at least with respect to this site, is a common abbreviation for Time Warner the cable company, not the corporation. TWC will mean “The Weather Channel” for a lot of people.

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