Comments on: Road Runner Is For The Birds: Time to Fly Away! (Rochester Edition) http://stopthecap.com/2009/04/02/road-runner-is-for-the-birds-time-to-fly-away-rochester-edition/ Promoting Better Broadband, Fighting Data Caps, Usage-Based Billing, & Other Internet Overcharging Schemes Wed, 23 May 2012 08:19:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: dwain http://stopthecap.com/2009/04/02/road-runner-is-for-the-birds-time-to-fly-away-rochester-edition/#comment-1665 dwain Sun, 12 Apr 2009 00:24:29 +0000 http://stopthecap.com/?p=455#comment-1665 this is very helpful, i guess i will have to pay my contract service time warrner roadrunner when i take their box back ($150.00 ripp off service) this is very helpful, i guess i will have to pay my contract service time warrner
roadrunner when i take their box back ($150.00 ripp off service)

]]> By: Mazakman http://stopthecap.com/2009/04/02/road-runner-is-for-the-birds-time-to-fly-away-rochester-edition/#comment-1053 Mazakman Mon, 06 Apr 2009 21:18:20 +0000 http://stopthecap.com/?p=455#comment-1053 Where I live in Webster, NY, we tried DSL last year and it wasn't bad at all. I saw good download speeds and very good upload compared to what Roadrunner has here. But what we saw that did affect our decision to return to RR was latency and that latency appeared within the local Frontier network on the first and second hops. Apparently because I had been in close touch with one of their marketing reps along with one of their more senior techs, they let me out of my contract after one months grace period and then actually being in the contract for two months. The people that I dealt with at Frontier were first class all the way and were willing to work with me to try to get to the bottom of those latency issues. But even the senior tech said after a while that they were going to have to invest a bit more in their infrastructure...specifically the lines that run between their CO's ... in order to fix the latency problem that we were seeing. Where I live in Webster, NY, we tried DSL last year and it wasn’t bad at all. I saw good download speeds and very good upload compared to what Roadrunner has here. But what we saw that did affect our decision to return to RR was latency and that latency appeared within the local Frontier network on the first and second hops. Apparently because I had been in close touch with one of their marketing reps along with one of their more senior techs, they let me out of my contract after one months grace period and then actually being in the contract for two months. The people that I dealt with at Frontier were first class all the way and were willing to work with me to try to get to the bottom of those latency issues. But even the senior tech said after a while that they were going to have to invest a bit more in their infrastructure…specifically the lines that run between their CO’s … in order to fix the latency problem that we were seeing.

]]> By: Jon http://stopthecap.com/2009/04/02/road-runner-is-for-the-birds-time-to-fly-away-rochester-edition/#comment-1052 Jon Mon, 06 Apr 2009 21:02:07 +0000 http://stopthecap.com/?p=455#comment-1052 see the 'Excessive Utilization of Network Resources' chapter in clearwire's acceptable use policy. They reserve the right to limit a user's bandwidth if they feel it's excessive. Frontier's AUP currently lists the famous 5GB limit. see the ‘Excessive Utilization of Network Resources’ chapter in clearwire’s acceptable use policy. They reserve the right to limit a user’s bandwidth if they feel it’s excessive. Frontier’s AUP currently lists the famous 5GB limit.

]]> By: TB http://stopthecap.com/2009/04/02/road-runner-is-for-the-birds-time-to-fly-away-rochester-edition/#comment-1035 TB Mon, 06 Apr 2009 16:04:26 +0000 http://stopthecap.com/?p=455#comment-1035 Slight problem...many of us can't get DSL. The service is awful. Slight problem…many of us can’t get DSL. The service is awful.

]]> By: Ed http://stopthecap.com/2009/04/02/road-runner-is-for-the-birds-time-to-fly-away-rochester-edition/#comment-1025 Ed Mon, 06 Apr 2009 01:44:08 +0000 http://stopthecap.com/?p=455#comment-1025 "I admittedly do not understand much about “naked DSL” type service so please feel free to share your insights, if any." Naked DSL is simply DSL without dialtone. The DSL pair is sent to your house to connect directly to a modem. If you are absolutely desperate to find out what your speed might be with DSL "A BALL PARK ESTIMATE" leave me a message with your address and phone number @ 777-8658 I work with frontier and can give you an idea. “I admittedly do not understand much about “naked DSL” type service so please feel free to share your insights, if any.”

Naked DSL is simply DSL without dialtone. The DSL pair is sent to your house to connect directly to a modem.

If you are absolutely desperate to find out what your speed might be with DSL “A BALL PARK ESTIMATE” leave me a message with your address and phone number @ 777-8658 I work with frontier and can give you an idea.

]]> By: DOWN_with_TWC! http://stopthecap.com/2009/04/02/road-runner-is-for-the-birds-time-to-fly-away-rochester-edition/#comment-1023 DOWN_with_TWC! Sun, 05 Apr 2009 22:42:58 +0000 http://stopthecap.com/?p=455#comment-1023 Thanks Phil, I guess we'll see how this all plays out in the next few months. I called TWC today to voice my concern and the CS rep told me they are only planning on doing "testing" this summer and they will determine what will happen after that based on the "testing". The problem is testing over the summer will not get an accurate reading. Family's on vacation, kids outside playing, college students gone home for the summer, of course its going to show much lower numbers than it would in say February or March. I also asked the CS rep why every news station in Rochester is already reporting that its a done deal and I was told they didn't have any information on that. So its pretty obvious to me that they are trying to keep us customers in the dark as much as possible. I would make a safe bet that if the media didn't break this story TWC would not have said anything to us and just started charging us come September. Thanks Phil, I guess we’ll see how this all plays out in the next few months. I called TWC today to voice my concern and the CS rep told me they are only planning on doing “testing” this summer and they will determine what will happen after that based on the “testing”. The problem is testing over the summer will not get an accurate reading. Family’s on vacation, kids outside playing, college students gone home for the summer, of course its going to show much lower numbers than it would in say February or March.

I also asked the CS rep why every news station in Rochester is already reporting that its a done deal and I was told they didn’t have any information on that. So its pretty obvious to me that they are trying to keep us customers in the dark as much as possible. I would make a safe bet that if the media didn’t break this story TWC would not have said anything to us and just started charging us come September.

]]> By: phil http://stopthecap.com/2009/04/02/road-runner-is-for-the-birds-time-to-fly-away-rochester-edition/#comment-1020 phil Sun, 05 Apr 2009 20:04:16 +0000 http://stopthecap.com/?p=455#comment-1020 Usually you will be told when ordering whether there is a problem in installing DSL at your location. If you have a metro Rochester exchange number, you are probably in the West Brighton - Brighton-Henrietta Townline Road exchange. If you have a Henrietta number, I suspect you are too far out from the primary central office, but Frontier will have a satellite CO nearby to reduce the distance. I don't think you will have any problems either way. Earthlink gives you six months at $29.95, so they have a new customer discount. Usually you will be told when ordering whether there is a problem in installing DSL at your location. If you have a metro Rochester exchange number, you are probably in the West Brighton – Brighton-Henrietta Townline Road exchange. If you have a Henrietta number, I suspect you are too far out from the primary central office, but Frontier will have a satellite CO nearby to reduce the distance.

I don’t think you will have any problems either way.

Earthlink gives you six months at $29.95, so they have a new customer discount.

]]> By: DOWN_with_TWC! http://stopthecap.com/2009/04/02/road-runner-is-for-the-birds-time-to-fly-away-rochester-edition/#comment-1018 DOWN_with_TWC! Sun, 05 Apr 2009 19:19:48 +0000 http://stopthecap.com/?p=455#comment-1018 How can you find out how far you are from one of Frontiers CO? I live in West Henrietta off of E River Rd and have had TWC for years. I run a small computer repair, upgrade shop out of my house and just on all the windows updates I do in a month it would put me over the 40gb cap. Not to mention my normal usage I know I would be over 100gb. I think the new pricing plan is outrageous and even the people who are considered "lite" users I think will end up paying overages if they sign up for the 20gb plan. People don't understand how much bandwidth is consumed from normal web browsing. Websites are getting more and more advanced with video, music and hi-rez pictures, it adds up quickly. Not to mention all the video streaming sites and iTunes. If you have teenagers in the house who use facebook, myspace, youtube then expect that 20 or 40gb to go away fast. If Earthlink doesn't cap there service i'll probable switch to them, if they do a cap then Frontier here I come. How can you find out how far you are from one of Frontiers CO? I live in West Henrietta off of E River Rd and have had TWC for years. I run a small computer repair, upgrade shop out of my house and just on all the windows updates I do in a month it would put me over the 40gb cap. Not to mention my normal usage I know I would be over 100gb.

I think the new pricing plan is outrageous and even the people who are considered “lite” users I think will end up paying overages if they sign up for the 20gb plan. People don’t understand how much bandwidth is consumed from normal web browsing. Websites are getting more and more advanced with video, music and hi-rez pictures, it adds up quickly. Not to mention all the video streaming sites and iTunes. If you have teenagers in the house who use facebook, myspace, youtube then expect that 20 or 40gb to go away fast.

If Earthlink doesn’t cap there service i’ll probable switch to them, if they do a cap then Frontier here I come.

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]]> By: Diane http://stopthecap.com/2009/04/02/road-runner-is-for-the-birds-time-to-fly-away-rochester-edition/#comment-966 Diane Fri, 03 Apr 2009 23:53:19 +0000 http://stopthecap.com/?p=455#comment-966 A Petition to Stop The Cap... http://www.petitiononline.com/twcfedup/petition.html A Petition to Stop The Cap…

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